With the appearance of Cordelia and her Tarot card readings to Samuel in Nikolais new update, I think it’s only fair to discuss the implications they may have for the story in general.
Now, Tarot cards aren’t necessarily “good or bad” but finding the decisions to get the most “favorable” cards for Samuel based on his situation would be nice (considering this is a horror game made by Echo Project).
I have done a few runs myself and the most “favorable” cards I have gotten were the high priestess (past), the devil (present), and judgment (future), all being upright.
To get this you need to select these choices:
“Maybe not. He seems helpful.”
“Nik.”
Get the locker combination right (8 turning left, 16 turning right, 3 turning left).
Make it through the mines without dying (straight, right, left, maps right).
“Absolutely.”
And finally “I’m good.”
The “least favorable” cards I have gotten were the high priestess (past, reversed), the devil and lovers (present, both reversed), and the tower (future, upright).
To get this you need to select these choices:
“This is all way too suspicious.”
“Yao.”
Get the locker combination right.
Make it through the mines without dying
“I need to think on it.”
And finally “Yeah!”
Keep in mind that I do not know jack shit about tarot cards and am going off of what I have googled about them. That means I can’t really make any bold claims about the cards impact on the future of Nik’s route other than “this card may be bad” and “this card may be good”. So please provide any input if you think there are other ways the cards could affect the future.
Also, if you want to try out different choice combinations for yourself, here is a short little guide of what influences your cards/combinations (it’s not that in depth so what you get may vary). For example, the first choice of Nik’s route when you choose if Yao seems suspicious or not influences the past and present, allowing you to get the high priestess (reversed/upright) for the past and the devil (reversed/upright) for the present. The next choice lets you choose a name to tell Porter, which influences the future. Giving either judgment (reversed/upright) or tower (reversed/upright). Getting the locker combo wrong changes whatever your past card is to death. And dying in the mines doesn't do anything (I think). Finally, the two newest decisions influence whether the future card will be upright or reversed. Please correct me if any of this is wrong.
I feel you I absolutely love their work, honestly probably the best visual novels I ever read. The only ones I can say can compete is Wolfstar Paradise and Sin, Nekojishi and Extracurricular Activities, but to be honest the writing they put in their visual novels is good better in Echo Projects by a bit.
But they are super inconsistent on their upload schedule. Which is a bummer they absolutely are good at what they do and I don't mind waiting. But their updates are super inconsistent. And waiting is so painful sometimes.
I honestly wish they'd release on steam too. I would wishlist them, nothing again patreon or anything I just feel safer on steam, I know steam is well trusted so I don't have to worry, and I'd rather just make one big early access payment rather then a bunch of small patreon payments.
Also steam is more well known they'd be able to access a bigger audience, this would sell like hot cakes on steam.
Just for some transparency: most of our writing devs are not the artists for these games. So generally we have to wait for assets before we can post or compile what we need to have.
We try to put out something at least once a month on patreon and if we don't, payments get paused.
The updates here are free, so they do not adhere to a schedule as consistent on patreon. Though we still try to release within 2 weeks when possible.
I am aware it has been a month, but for artists writers and coders, sometimes life happens.
Not sure if this is the place to do it but I'm going to leave my prediction here: The one who murdered Mary in Blithe's dream/vision and the person Dahlia's messages are referring to is probably Alfred. I'm already pretty sure both are caused by the same person because of how they're both related, Alfred has already shown that he's not mentally...there and would most easily explain why Dahlia would know anything like that in the first place, not to mention how secretive and casual she is when giving us the information (It could just be how would act normally, but being that secretive points to the culprit being someone close to her, otherwise she wouldn't need to do it). There are other story-telling reasons imo that point to it being him, but I'll leave those out for now
Itch builds for EchoProject novels tend to release around 2-3 weeks after the Patreon build releases. So approximately around the 15-29th time frame of this month.
Hi all, this is wild and random but I found Smoke Room because one of my songs has showed up on a couple Spotify Playlists dedicated to it. The song is Ain't No Politician by Nicholas Rowe. I would really like to know if my song is in the game. I'm merely curious really, I'm a writer for Storyblocks, and don't usually get to see where my music is used. It's always fun to find it out in the wild. Can anyone shed any light?
just kidding, I really hope you will give it a try, EchoProject's novels are something else, although maybe better idea would be starting witch Echo itself for many, MANY reasons ;)
I love your music and it fits the tone of the game perfectly sometimes. Some of the audioblocks stuffs veers more big epic cinema sounds or fancy yogurt commercial so it can be hard to find solid folk pieces. You are very appreciated.
Thank you. Nice to meet you as well. I know the game is still unfinished so please let me know if you need any more stuff in the same vein. I'd be happy to help.
Love all your visual novels I just wish the wait time wasn't so long I know Nikolai is coming up next but you kind of left William at the worst cliffhanger as well but still love it all the same
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Quick question after Nikolai who is next on the Block I know it will be a while after Nikolai while I read everyone's routes my Canon route is William
probably not……saaad
Morning to previous update readers will have to delete previous version 2 install I had to find that out the hard way at least for the Android version
eyy finally android version is out~
Anyone know how I can update the game and have all my saves carry over on android..?
no android update? qwq
Or it'll be out later
Read the dev log.
-George
Already did after postin' that-- xD i always forget to read devlogs
Is. This game finished
If no then when is it gonna finish?
The original Echo took 5 years.. So this could take that amount of time, or longer..
With the appearance of Cordelia and her Tarot card readings to Samuel in Nikolais new update, I think it’s only fair to discuss the implications they may have for the story in general.
Now, Tarot cards aren’t necessarily “good or bad” but finding the decisions to get the most “favorable” cards for Samuel based on his situation would be nice (considering this is a horror game made by Echo Project).
I have done a few runs myself and the most “favorable” cards I have gotten were the high priestess (past), the devil (present), and judgment (future), all being upright.
To get this you need to select these choices:
“Maybe not. He seems helpful.”
“Nik.”
Get the locker combination right (8 turning left, 16 turning right, 3 turning left).
Make it through the mines without dying (straight, right, left, maps right).
“Absolutely.”
And finally “I’m good.”
The “least favorable” cards I have gotten were the high priestess (past, reversed), the devil and lovers (present, both reversed), and the tower (future, upright).
To get this you need to select these choices:
“This is all way too suspicious.”
“Yao.”
Get the locker combination right.
Make it through the mines without dying
“I need to think on it.”
And finally “Yeah!”
Keep in mind that I do not know jack shit about tarot cards and am going off of what I have googled about them. That means I can’t really make any bold claims about the cards impact on the future of Nik’s route other than “this card may be bad” and “this card may be good”. So please provide any input if you think there are other ways the cards could affect the future.
Also, if you want to try out different choice combinations for yourself, here is a short little guide of what influences your cards/combinations (it’s not that in depth so what you get may vary). For example, the first choice of Nik’s route when you choose if Yao seems suspicious or not influences the past and present, allowing you to get the high priestess (reversed/upright) for the past and the devil (reversed/upright) for the present. The next choice lets you choose a name to tell Porter, which influences the future. Giving either judgment (reversed/upright) or tower (reversed/upright). Getting the locker combo wrong changes whatever your past card is to death. And dying in the mines doesn't do anything (I think). Finally, the two newest decisions influence whether the future card will be upright or reversed. Please correct me if any of this is wrong.
Update for folks: I am still waiting on a cg I do not have. I will update the game without it tomorrow if I do not have it.
-George
I lev willia.m
Y'all are so impatient,they just released a new game:-| if you can't afford,then wait.
I feel you I absolutely love their work, honestly probably the best visual novels I ever read. The only ones I can say can compete is Wolfstar Paradise and Sin, Nekojishi and Extracurricular Activities, but to be honest the writing they put in their visual novels is good better in Echo Projects by a bit.
But they are super inconsistent on their upload schedule. Which is a bummer they absolutely are good at what they do and I don't mind waiting. But their updates are super inconsistent. And waiting is so painful sometimes.
I honestly wish they'd release on steam too. I would wishlist them, nothing again patreon or anything I just feel safer on steam, I know steam is well trusted so I don't have to worry, and I'd rather just make one big early access payment rather then a bunch of small patreon payments.
Also steam is more well known they'd be able to access a bigger audience, this would sell like hot cakes on steam.
But just my two cents on the topic.
Just for some transparency: most of our writing devs are not the artists for these games. So generally we have to wait for assets before we can post or compile what we need to have.
We try to put out something at least once a month on patreon and if we don't, payments get paused.
The updates here are free, so they do not adhere to a schedule as consistent on patreon. Though we still try to release within 2 weeks when possible.
I am aware it has been a month, but for artists writers and coders, sometimes life happens.
-George
Is there an update yet
Where the fuck is the latest update?
Still no update--
Gotta say something, that Murdoch update..... WOW. I didn't think it would go that far.
No spoilers, but if you've seen the update, I think you know what scene I'm talking about. Yikes it was gut wrenching.
Is that the update coming out tomorrow?
The new update is abt Nik's
NIK UPDATE IN TWO DAYS YOOHOO
May i ask if this Visual Novel has any social media...maybe discord?
When is the new update being uploaded to itch?
A few days ago George said they will be aiming for the 30th. So it will likely be up next Saturday or at least around the weekend.
FINALLY!! who's route will it be?
The updates rotate in a set order for which route is focused on. The order is Cliff, Murdoch, Nik, and then William. The next update should be Nik.
From what the creator said its The 30th
This might be a stupid question but is it possible to read this on iPad I'm just wondering for someone that I know
Unfortunately, we can’t. Wish there was an .ipa so it could be sideloaded
just great I just wanted my family member to read the smoke room for some reason I wouldn't let t h e m download it to their phone
Normally it's around today but we're gonna add another cg to the public build, so we're thinking the 30th.
-George
Not sure if this is the place to do it but I'm going to leave my prediction here:
The one who murdered Mary in Blithe's dream/vision and the person Dahlia's messages are referring to is probably Alfred. I'm already pretty sure both are caused by the same person because of how they're both related, Alfred has already shown that he's not mentally...there and would most easily explain why Dahlia would know anything like that in the first place, not to mention how secretive and casual she is when giving us the information (It could just be how would act normally, but being that secretive points to the culprit being someone close to her, otherwise she wouldn't need to do it). There are other story-telling reasons imo that point to it being him, but I'll leave those out for now
Hmm.. This could make sense, I guess we'll have to see how this plays out.. I'm excited for the next update!
I want to see sam in suit 😤😤
To be fair murdoch in suit is more than enough, but im biased
when does build 21 come out for itch.io? I am aware it came out on patron already but when does it go public?
Itch builds for EchoProject novels tend to release around 2-3 weeks after the Patreon build releases. So approximately around the 15-29th time frame of this month.
George in a mote recent comment said they're aiming for the 30th this weekend. :D I'm stoked!
That's a different Hendricks
Hi all, this is wild and random but I found Smoke Room because one of my songs has showed up on a couple Spotify Playlists dedicated to it. The song is Ain't No Politician by Nicholas Rowe. I would really like to know if my song is in the game. I'm merely curious really, I'm a writer for Storyblocks, and don't usually get to see where my music is used. It's always fun to find it out in the wild. Can anyone shed any light?
Huh, yes it is :)
It's amazing to see the very person who created music used in a game so randomly. I didn't even know that your song has vocals.
I would tell you to play this and see yourself the usage of your track, but... maybe not ^^
just kidding, I really hope you will give it a try, EchoProject's novels are something else, although maybe better idea would be starting witch Echo itself for many, MANY reasons ;)
Thank you so much. I'm gonna check it out.
Oh hey! Nice to meet you! Kinda surreal to, haha.
That one is in the Nikolai route. It's a scene where the protagonist is talking to some of the workers in the mine about how to use dynamite.
(Just a warning that this is a very nsfw furry game with a lot of m/m scenes but if you're brave please check it out.)
-George
I love your music and it fits the tone of the game perfectly sometimes. Some of the audioblocks stuffs veers more big epic cinema sounds or fancy yogurt commercial so it can be hard to find solid folk pieces. You are very appreciated.
-George
Thank you. Nice to meet you as well. I know the game is still unfinished so please let me know if you need any more stuff in the same vein. I'd be happy to help.
Oh, absolutely. That would be incredible. I'm fox_gs on telegram and @georgesquares on discord and twitter.
I really want a new update fror Willam Route i hope it comes out soon
Still waiting for James Hendricks NSFW scene on Nik Route (in the office)
Is the new update coming out soon?
If everything goes well It'll be on patreon in less than 24 hours.
Thank you I so looking forward to playing the new update the gets posted
Would love to hear 'em!
Which route will be updated next and will there ever be anything between Todd and sam?
Todd? The otter? Doubtful, I think they made him straight
Thats doubtful beacuse how intrested he is in Samuels work
Was it on his work? I thought he was interested on the squirts.
Ok, true, that and he was looking at Mr Tibbits a little too much so yeah, I guess it's possible to get a romance out of that otter.
the TvTropes page for The Smoke Room could use some love https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VisualNovel/TheSmokeRoom
For future reference, how does one update this? are all the builds completely separate or do my save files cross over automatically.
I think you gotta go into your file manager thats what i do (on mobile)
any update about the next build? :3
Aiming for between the 15th and the 30th of this month for patreon, which would be about 2 weeks later here. o/
-george
I see, thanks~
Love all your visual novels I just wish the wait time wasn't so long I know Nikolai is coming up next but you kind of left William at the worst cliffhanger as well but still love it all the same