So uhh I have one question. On the page for Echo I saw someone mention that McSkinny suggested there is a "recommended" order to play through the characters. And after finishing it I feel like that order was indeed the best choice. Is there also one such (agreed upon) order for TSR? I don't necessarily wanna start with a route that may spoil things unintentionally for other routes.
I already knew that after playing through Jenna's route. Somehow he still lived during the 60's, which makes him 70 years old by the time he died from Mr. Bronson's driving.
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i remember seeing some one point out that in Echo the hyteria fulfills the desires of each character in their route in a twisted way, does anyone think something like that might be happening in TSR
Ugh, I hope so. All of the endings for each character in Echo(except for Carl and Jenna) made me depress. I can already imagine the dark cloud above my head.
I´m going to start reading this NV but I need help, should I need to follow a specific route first? Like in Echo, starting with a certain character and then other, making it correlate and the story having more sense.
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I have a bad feeling about how the endings of each or some of the character will be. Like, my gut is telling me to NOT get too attached to the characters (especially William & Nick) ...or else, but my freakin' reproductive system's telling me: NOPE! TOO LATE!
yeah i have a feeling william might get hurt, but something tells me he wont die at least. also yeah same lmao, i finished an ECHO route recently and fucking nearly cried because i was extremely attached to leo ;-;
That's exactly why its been bothering me. I too feel like the potential romances won't die... hopefully. BUT! Given that the Echo series seem to have a knack to kill some of the characters, and the fact that Sam, William, and Nick could have died on that so called bridge on the mines (although Sam did died at some point), I'd say I won't get myself too comfortable yet
real quick dont read this if you havent done echo,
in the Leo route at the end when you get on the train without him you switch between two people. both cursing echo for hurting them and there friends, one being I'm pretty sure the mc of the smoke room the other obviously being chase. and on that same note, the reason i think its the mc of the smoke room is because he says "curse you for hurting Nikolai, William and Cynthia. (and more but I don't remember the rest because I'm kinda forgetful.) so I think maybe they get injured or someone they love will get injured. but no deaths because I don't think I saw the ???/mc of smoke room state anything about someone dying. i got a save directly on that moment so i might check just to be sure.
Theres quite a few reasons in my opinion to not get emotionally attached to the characters. Echo spoilers
Firstly, In Leo's route in Echo, the voice in Chase's head says something along the lines of "Fuck you for hurting William" and the rest of the characters. Pretty good evidence for pretty much all the routes having no "good" endings.
Echo gives some backstory as to what happened in 1915 mass hysteria (TSR). Echo pretty much went to shit as result of the events in this VN so there is definitely a canonically bad ending.
And of course, the same people who made this VN made Ad Astra and Echo sooo....
Yeah i know. I just recently finished Carl's & Leo's route like an hour ago, and my heart dropped at those lines.
I just can't help it to get attached to them. I mean, how can you just not love William and Nickolai (and Cyntia)? They're like... rare pokémons that needs to be treasured lol
The creators of the Echo series doesn't seem to have "good ending" in their vocabulary. I mean I guess they do, but their type of good ending leaves you questionably happy yet depressing. Its like The Conjuring but with romance and the credit song is WAP but sanged by Celine Dion lol
actually, yes. the main character hears some things, at least I believe he does... from a certain someone. i really dont wanna spoil anything. also the guy who got killed in the mines, isnt that the main thing about this game? the same event chase even went back for (aside from his friends reunion)? also the catalyst of some of the events in TSR?
The actual events of both novels are like decades, if not like almost a century apart, but if I remember correctly, one of the major reasons they are even there in the first place is to learn about the history of the town. Since TSR is part of Echo's history and Echo's "schtick" (for lack of a better word) is that it's essentially some mixture of haunted (by the past), dangerous (because of the people), and the fact that it seems to want to keep people in (the monster the characters in both TSR & Echo seems to have seen but cannot describe), the events in Echo seems to......well...Echo or repeat in the future, which is why all those characteristics of the town are present in all three games: TSR, Echo, and even the newest addition to the series, Arches. Hallucinations, the "it seemed so real" moments, and the fact that no one knows what the hell is going on are all what the town of Echo is known for. So while they don't DIRECTLY influence the events that happen in the future stories, there are certainly allusions to the past through dialogue, characters, and the events that the characters go through and noticeable similarities between everything. (sorry if that confused you/didn't really answer your question)
I think either Echo or the smoke room can be played first (though Echo would be a better start since that game is complete) though in a timeline sense TSR is before Echo
hey, when new builds come out, how do saves work? i don't wanna replay the whole game when build 15 is public. I saved each route at right before the "To be continued" screen, is that worth anything?
Yeah fixing that would be the easiest way to correct it. But you can also just copy your TSR save files to that interea game until they fix that. Just go to the game folder of TSR and copy the saves to the Interea game folder. Normally the game folder is in Android>data>echoproject.smokeroom and then just copy the files into the .interea game folder.
Yeah I agree....that’s kinda why I didn’t like Echo very much...there was never anything positive when it came to romance, and anything that leaned towards that was ruined by something. I wanted the romance to at least play into how the characters developed the storylines, but the lack of romance just kinda made the game super boring to play through, which is why I’ve only played that game once.
(Also I lean more towards Nik, but I’m really hoping that the good endings of this game are...well...good)
Anyone else have this be a thing where the android version instead of TSR is called Interea? Its still TSR inside but it just created a new app icon for it.
Personally since we know the rat thug that assulted cliff disappears in Nik's route, I think it's him, but I wanna hear what y'all think. Maybe it's Blithe's friend? Maybe Huxley Greene?
In the latest William update (currently a Patreon exclusive) what Murdoch describes to have happened is implied to have been a hallucination of something that happened in the past. The group finds a minecart that was supposedly used to transport the body in a condemned portion of the mine that leads to the lake, but Nik states that the supports are rotted through and could collapse at any moment. One of the structures does indeed collapse as William argues with the group to cross it after seeing someone who wasn't really there. The tunnel is too dangerous to have been used recently but was probably safer in the past when it was being maintained.
In Murdoch's route Murdoch and Ralph describe the place at the lake as being evil and capable of causing people who've experienced trauma to see hallucinations in photos. The entity that possesses Sam says "I'm coming" before the murder happens which implies that what the group saw and heard was a supernatural event caused by echo.
Thanks! Honestly not as surprised as I thought I'd be, while I wasn't sure, the fact that the voice threatened him and then the event happened was pretty sus.
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So uhh I have one question. On the page for Echo I saw someone mention that McSkinny suggested there is a "recommended" order to play through the characters. And after finishing it I feel like that order was indeed the best choice.
Is there also one such (agreed upon) order for TSR? I don't necessarily wanna start with a route that may spoil things unintentionally for other routes.
I wouldn't say so, at least at the moment.. All of the routes are being made parallel to one another.
After this update I think it's a pretty safe guess to say that this game is going to absolutely destroy me by the end lol ❤️
Seconded.
I have the same feeling lol
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I already knew that after playing through Jenna's route. Somehow he still lived during the 60's, which makes him 70 years old by the time he died from Mr. Bronson's driving.
And they were all
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Dear God, make Sam fuck with Jim in the next update, amen🙏🙏
With Hendricks? Ew...
Noooooooo!!! Jim the white fox!!!
they already did fk tho, not shown but they did. Highly unlikely theyd fuk but theres maybe like a 5 percent chance of that happening
Sorry, I presumed James because of naming cognates like Bob from Robert, Bill from William, and Jim from James, of course.
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i remember seeing some one point out that in Echo the hyteria fulfills the desires of each character in their route in a twisted way, does anyone think something like that might be happening in TSR
Ugh, I hope so. All of the endings for each character in Echo(except for Carl and Jenna) made me depress. I can already imagine the dark cloud above my head.
is anyone going to start a TVtropes page for the smoke room?
Una pregunta hay alguna novela en español?😥✋
Just translate it idk
no que yo sepa xd
I´m going to start reading this NV but I need help, should I need to follow a specific route first? Like in Echo, starting with a certain character and then other, making it correlate and the story having more sense.
Nope! Any route is fine :)
When the next update? I can't wait :(
Look at Development Log, and do some basic math.
Okay! Thanks!!
So I was lamenting how I couldn't support you guys at the $25 level, not that I wanted all the benefits, just access to the posts. Then a little voice spoke into my head just now: check patreon.
I did. And I grabbed it. :)
Seriously, I love the work you guys are doing. Sadly, this means I'll have to cancel pretty much all my other patreon things though.
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But right, in the rightest way of being right.
I have a bad feeling about how the endings of each or some of the character will be. Like, my gut is telling me to NOT get too attached to the characters (especially William & Nick) ...or else, but my freakin' reproductive system's telling me: NOPE! TOO LATE!
yeah i have a feeling william might get hurt, but something tells me he wont die at least. also yeah same lmao, i finished an ECHO route recently and fucking nearly cried because i was extremely attached to leo ;-;
That's exactly why its been bothering me. I too feel like the potential romances won't die... hopefully. BUT! Given that the Echo series seem to have a knack to kill some of the characters, and the fact that Sam, William, and Nick could have died on that so called bridge on the mines (although Sam did died at some point), I'd say I won't get myself too comfortable yet
real quick dont read this if you havent done echo,
in the Leo route at the end when you get on the train without him you switch between two people. both cursing echo for hurting them and there friends, one being I'm pretty sure the mc of the smoke room the other obviously being chase. and on that same note, the reason i think its the mc of the smoke room is because he says "curse you for hurting Nikolai, William and Cynthia. (and more but I don't remember the rest because I'm kinda forgetful.) so I think maybe they get injured or someone they love will get injured. but no deaths because I don't think I saw the ???/mc of smoke room state anything about someone dying. i got a save directly on that moment so i might check just to be sure.
Theres quite a few reasons in my opinion to not get emotionally attached to the characters. Echo spoilers
Firstly, In Leo's route in Echo, the voice in Chase's head says something along the lines of "Fuck you for hurting William" and the rest of the characters. Pretty good evidence for pretty much all the routes having no "good" endings.
Echo gives some backstory as to what happened in 1915 mass hysteria (TSR). Echo pretty much went to shit as result of the events in this VN so there is definitely a canonically bad ending.
And of course, the same people who made this VN made Ad Astra and Echo sooo....
Yeah i know. I just recently finished Carl's & Leo's route like an hour ago, and my heart dropped at those lines.
I just can't help it to get attached to them. I mean, how can you just not love William and Nickolai (and Cyntia)? They're like... rare pokémons that needs to be treasured lol
The creators of the Echo series doesn't seem to have "good ending" in their vocabulary. I mean I guess they do, but their type of good ending leaves you questionably happy yet depressing. Its like The Conjuring but with romance and the credit song is WAP but sanged by Celine Dion lol
Does "standalone" mean that it has no correlation with the events of "ECHO"?
it absolutely has some connection to the events of ECHO, mainly because of some... later things in that game. so prolly not.
Is it directly correlated though? Are there events that happen in smoke room that are part of ECHO's plot? Characters that appear from tsr in ECHO?
actually, yes. the main character hears some things, at least I believe he does... from a certain someone. i really dont wanna spoil anything. also the guy who got killed in the mines, isnt that the main thing about this game? the same event chase even went back for (aside from his friends reunion)? also the catalyst of some of the events in TSR?
The actual events of both novels are like decades, if not like almost a century apart, but if I remember correctly, one of the major reasons they are even there in the first place is to learn about the history of the town. Since TSR is part of Echo's history and Echo's "schtick" (for lack of a better word) is that it's essentially some mixture of haunted (by the past), dangerous (because of the people), and the fact that it seems to want to keep people in (the monster the characters in both TSR & Echo seems to have seen but cannot describe), the events in Echo seems to......well...Echo or repeat in the future, which is why all those characteristics of the town are present in all three games: TSR, Echo, and even the newest addition to the series, Arches. Hallucinations, the "it seemed so real" moments, and the fact that no one knows what the hell is going on are all what the town of Echo is known for. So while they don't DIRECTLY influence the events that happen in the future stories, there are certainly allusions to the past through dialogue, characters, and the events that the characters go through and noticeable similarities between everything. (sorry if that confused you/didn't really answer your question)
What's the correct time lime for the Echo Series? Like, i feel The Smoke Room is the first one, but i'm not sure
I think either Echo or the smoke room can be played first (though Echo would be a better start since that game is complete) though in a timeline sense TSR is before Echo
Echo is set in 2015, TSR is in 1915
Don't forget Arches, game is set in a few years after incident in Echo :)
what routes (if any) are completed?
they are all not yet completely
so i have TSR version 14. How I can change it for version 15?
7 minutes ago...bet
hey, when new builds come out, how do saves work? i don't wanna replay the whole game when build 15 is public. I saved each route at right before the "To be continued" screen, is that worth anything?
thats what i do
cant be canon cuz todd fancies cliff
Can't be canon if Cliff fancies Sam.
Drink some water, you seem to be dying of thirst
Fixed android 14 version https://www.mediafire.com/file/8v32p9b7fhbpxbt/TSR_14_universal_release.apk/file
The newest build public build (TSR 14) isn't working on android. Already tested on multiple devices.
Downloaded it for Android, failed twice but now i have it downloaded but im tapping the start button and nothing so i cant even play it😪😪
Fix android plz save on interea..
Yeah fixing that would be the easiest way to correct it. But you can also just copy your TSR save files to that interea game until they fix that. Just go to the game folder of TSR and copy the saves to the Interea game folder. Normally the game folder is in Android>data>echoproject.smokeroom and then just copy the files into the .interea game folder.
I'm so happy that TSR has more of a romantic aspect to it, compared to Echo. I love Will, hopefully Sam and him can have a goodish ending.
Here's to hoping!
Yeah I agree....that’s kinda why I didn’t like Echo very much...there was never anything positive when it came to romance, and anything that leaned towards that was ruined by something. I wanted the romance to at least play into how the characters developed the storylines, but the lack of romance just kinda made the game super boring to play through, which is why I’ve only played that game once.
(Also I lean more towards Nik, but I’m really hoping that the good endings of this game are...well...good)
Anyone else have this be a thing where the android version instead of TSR is called Interea? Its still TSR inside but it just created a new app icon for it.
Yep, at least me for now. Kinda annoying cause my saves are inaccessible.
Well you can copy your save files from the game folders on your phone.
hey thanks for the android version. are you still cooking up ideas on your other unfinished novels?
I'm in the planning phases of another project while I work on this on; kinda what we have to do in the game dev process to keep projects flowing.
--george
Bro where is the android version 😭😭😭
Just a minute ago :P
Android version :(
Fr I wonder when it will be out? It's not even there I just noticed 😂😭😭
Wait is the update not on Android yet it till say it's build 13??
Android builds always come out a few days after, so we'll just have to have patience here
Yass the updates 👁👄👁✨
When the update for willam is on Android yet😭
I made the mistake to play the game in my room with the blinds closed and it was very dark 😟
Yeah, I did that when started it too (after playing Adastra). I had nightmares for weeks.
Todd and Cliff need to get a room..
...that's not...you missed something lol
I get that's more to do with his confusion on how to treat cliff as a person, since he finds his mannerisms feminine, but it's still funny to me lol
Oh my bad :( I thought you were being serious lmao...hard to detect sarcasm through text :(
But seriously though I ship them. Even if it is just a headcanon
Spoilers! Down Below Is Theory Discussion
Who do you think was in the bag?
Personally since we know the rat thug that assulted cliff disappears in Nik's route, I think it's him, but I wanna hear what y'all think. Maybe it's Blithe's friend? Maybe Huxley Greene?
Spoilers...
In the latest William update (currently a Patreon exclusive) what Murdoch describes to have happened is implied to have been a hallucination of something that happened in the past. The group finds a minecart that was supposedly used to transport the body in a condemned portion of the mine that leads to the lake, but Nik states that the supports are rotted through and could collapse at any moment. One of the structures does indeed collapse as William argues with the group to cross it after seeing someone who wasn't really there. The tunnel is too dangerous to have been used recently but was probably safer in the past when it was being maintained.
In Murdoch's route Murdoch and Ralph describe the place at the lake as being evil and capable of causing people who've experienced trauma to see hallucinations in photos. The entity that possesses Sam says "I'm coming" before the murder happens which implies that what the group saw and heard was a supernatural event caused by echo.
Spoilers answer
Thanks! Honestly not as surprised as I thought I'd be, while I wasn't sure, the fact that the voice threatened him and then the event happened was pretty sus.