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This is scary and also makes sense. 😂😂😂

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That's a different kind of horny many I was hoping to show y'all...

-George

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Uh... Should I be concerned?? 😅😅😂😂

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So how long will it take to finish the game?

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very long~

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We're at about the half way point and a lot of dev time is being spent on animatic design. 

Ideally it won't be more than 2 more years. 
Thanks for your support.
-George

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Lesgo~ :3

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is there any way to skip parts you've already seen when you scrap old saves or am I just stuck with aggressive keyboard mashing?

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There's an option in settings to allow skipping unseen text

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Sometimes I feel like Echo is a real place, as it feels like I really do move in circles, going back again and again to the amazing works associated with this town.

How should I put it... It's not just a novel, it's a masterpiece.

I've been reading furry visual novels for about a year now and I can say with confidence that this is the best thing I've read thus far.

Every line of dialogue, every image, everything is exactly where it should be. 

I finished reading Echo last fall and was left blown away by the quality of the narration, but the writers managed to outdo themselves with The Smoke Room.

Each route is unique in its own way, revealing the mysteries of the town of Echo and its inhabitants. It's like a puzzle - the reader learns more details and revelations in each route of the chosen companions. 

Each character is beautifully written - each have their own skeletons in the closet, each have their own secrets, no one is as unambiguous as it might seem at first glance.

The Smoke Room skillfully combines elements of romance, horror, and detective storytelling. 

At times I was frightened along with the characters, rejoiced at their triumphs, even cried, both at the bitter revelations of the characters and the incredible scenes created by the writers. The literal music video in the middle of Clifford's route still makes me marvel.

What else is there to say? I'm really looking forward to the continuation of all the routes, but my personal favorite is William. (What can I say, I suppose I enjoy being tied up).

10/10 

I love the narrative in both Echo and TSR, but I'm still having problems with the horror. Like it's so dark that I just don't feel scared anymore haha, of course that is personal opinion and takes nothing from the VN itself as every character is believable and lovable.

Btw Echo is a real place in Utah and it's really a Ghost Town if you ever wondered.

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If it matters, echo was based off a real place if I'm not mistaken. It's practically our world with anthropomorphic animals and name changes.

Really, I'm intrigued now?

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Just got the what has been finished from Nik and Will routes. I love Nik a lot but I do believe Will is better suited for Sam. They both suffered enough so that can support each other. I like Nik more but I don't see Sam liking him back enough.

do yourself a favor save Cliff for last!

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Why yes, that was my plan. He is the least attractive to me in any front, but after William's route I just got wondering myself so I will take a look after Murdock

Welp, Cliff is truly one to ease hearts. This is the happiest route on all Echoverse as far as I'm concerned, and that animatic is just perfect.

William is my favorite followed Murdoch. Nik is my next favorite

I am a little conflicted cause William is as hot as the sun on summer (XD) but Nik is the type that gets my gears going phisically and sentimentaly speaking. I will need to see what's the deal with Murdock as many seem to love him

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To be honest William just barely beats out Nik for me. Also I like Williams sense of humor. Its not like Nik loses by much for me its by a hair, but for me at least he still loses to William. Also William seems like a better protector but I mean he is literally the sheriff so that is to be expected.

Both are protectors, but I believe William is more suited for Sam, so I agree with your POV

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Any theories on what makes Echo a cursed land? My current theory is a greater demon that causes trouble keeping the land in a constant state of anger and fear. Feeding of it to get stronger. 


Also it could just be pissed off spirits. In a lot of lore when a lot of people die horrible deaths it has a way of cursing the land. Kinda makes a snowball effect makes it harder for people to be at peace in the land. 


Or maybe a combination? Angry spirits would make a good food source for a demon considering they feed off negative emotions. 


If anyone has theories I'd love to hear them. Also in Echo they mention a windago? But the confusing part if its a windago they are corrupted spirits caused by cannibalism. As far as I know they are currently no cannibals as far as I know. Unless there is some lore that I don't know of?

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I never get tired of saying that Echo's evil and the Other from Adastra are one and the same as they have a similar way of acting and feeds on negative feelings. Even Neferu stated that stories of haunted buildings or towns is just the Other manifesting in a lessed way.

I need to finish the Adrast series. Gonna be honest I forgot it existed for a little while.

I think there's something wrong with android version again :( , hope it gets fixed soon I'm q huge fan of ur games echo man

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Ok playing through Nik's route, he is so cute! How protective he is of Samuel is adorable to see. Can't wait for more to come out, I need to know how Nik and Sam's story plays out (I need them to get "married" hehe)

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I am there as well, Nik is the cutest so far, but I do feel sorry for him and how he hates what Sam does/has to do.

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Yes, but that's also a part of his character that I really like. The whole line about [spoiler] "wanting to pay to hold him forever, and pay him what he's really worth" basically felt like an confession of love, and it was cute as hell!! [endspoiler]

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I screamed there

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I can't descripe in words how much im loving murdoch's route, this precious man just deserves the world✨

I wasn't interested in his route to be honest, then I played it and I'm f'ing crying. I can even say it's the best route on the game.

I heard there was a christmas special AU, does anyone know where to find it?

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https://www.patreon.com/posts/60308549

How is the top/bottom situation looking in this game?

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current progress estimation: 48-52% 

I don't know what's going on I can't get my smoke room to update this is what I get  should I re-download 

I'm having the same issue with the Android build

Try install the apk file with XPAK Installer in Playstore. 

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Try uninstalling your previous version, and installing the new after.

thank you for the help annoyed that I had to lose all my saved games

I'm still having this issue, it's my 1st time installing on Android too

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I'm getting very strong Silent Hill/ Dark Souls vibes from this last update. I don't really know where this is going, but I'm hooked. Also why did it end the way it did!? 😃😃😩😩

Edit: I think the town either has a mind of its own or the spirits there are evil. Then with the dream Sam had, was it a dream or a vision?

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Re: The Smoke Room - Build 20: Ghosts of Melodious Prophesyings Rave

Literary References:

Title: 'Endymion' - John Keats

[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 20 BELOW]

[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 20 BELOW]

[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 20 BELOW]



A "Brief" Summary:

This build picks up right after the voice in Samuel's head tells Sam that he has a guess on what Murdoch is referring to. This then proceeds to a long discussion between Murdoch and Samuel about possible confessions of the murder that happened a month prior in the story. Murdoch goes on to say that the noose is not a way of justice, but a heavy tether between life and death. Going on to say that the reason why the people of Echo want to see Samuel hanged is not because of murder, but out of excitement and the tension the gallows bring. Afterwards, Samuel leaves Murdoch alone and heads to the pawn shop to meet up with Jim wherein a conversation between them occurs where Samuel reveals that he knows that Jim is proceeding in intercourse with his soon to be brother-in-law and is also engaging in sex with Murdoch as well. Leading Jim to say that Murdoch is very eager for the 'relationship' between the two men and can not get enough of Jim. Murdoch soon walks in afterwards and interrupts their conversation and leaves with Samuel back to his family's general store. Inside we find William discussing with Ralph about the presumed whereabouts of Samuel, Samuel obviously wants to hide himself but it caught by Alfred Byrnes before he can choose to do so. William then leads Samuel and Murdoch to the back of the store to question Samuel about what exactly happened the month prior. Samuel feigns that he doesn't remember exactly what happened that night due to the head injury he sustained during the struggle (with help of Murdoch, discussing how he had a concussion during his teenage years). William proceeds to implying say that he would buy Murdoch [for sex] if things did not work out with his current profession and waltzes off. Murdoch and Sam go into the store's red room and they discuss various things about how photography works (the lights and all that) and end off talking about what exactly happened to Seamus. Sam returns to the Hip and gets his suit hemmed by Cynthia and he has two clients before sleeping and dreaming about what happened to Blithe's friend Melissa and Blithe waking up. The build ends with a conversation between Gretchen Byrnes and Samuel about politics.

Thoughts & Opinions:

I may be hugely biased because Murdoch Byrnes is my favorite character in the novel and his route is something I hold in high regard. I don't really have much to say as I did in my 'Rocks of Sombre Hue' review but I still thoroughly enjoyed 'Ghosts of Melodious Prophesyings Rave' as what it was. I loved the two new CGs that were included this build and the return of the glorious 88883 to my mix of giddiness and despair in the moment. I am excited to see how the rest of Murdoch's route goes from here and I wish for the best for Mr. Byrnes by the end, although knowing that (depending on the ending(s)) his fate could be something worse than death. However, I do feel that the façade of Murdoch's emotional state is beginning to crack more and more as the story has been progressing, the breakdown from the end of 'Sparkles Bleared and Black and Blind' only but cements that as a definite possibility for things to come when it comes to Murdoch as an  individual who can hide his emotions in such a way.

Overall Rating:

9/10

~NotEvenParan0id

Furniture of the Golden Witch

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thanks for the hard work as always, guys! you are awesome

Amazing~!

Does this game contain NSFW scenes?

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Yes, lots of them!

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Yes

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Is this game done? Or do I have to wait a bit longer to read it completely?

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It's not like they're charging to check it yourself.  But it isn't done.

There's a development log you could check... I think.  If there's a device that can't see it, I don't know.

edit: Oh come on.  I answered the question.  Why the minus?

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Probably because it was a little rude? People normally don’t read the important stuff, even I first thought it was finish. Also, yes, you did answer. And no, I wasn’t the one who gave you a minus.

I actually wonder why he did that too.

Also, development log doesn’t say if it is done or not. Neither on the start of the description of the game.

Unless is Echo and Adastra which are the only projects that I know are finish.

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Full offense taken as my boy Sam says jaja. Yeah a little rude but I think a "thanks" is due, yeah you did answered my question so, thanks.

Note: I wasn't the one on the minus end either.

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Its a work in progress he finishes about a chapter a month for a character. It will be finished eventually but it slow progress

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Thanks!!

it's hard to tell where the story is heading but what there is intrigue me to no end

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I'm thinking the 'perfect' ending for TSR: Sam reveal his truth to Nik then Nik encourage Sam to tell it to William. Things go like William's route which mean he takes Nik, Sam, and Murdoch to the mine. In the way back, Murdoch throw a joke (and half serious) about last night bet. Then the things go like Murdoch route which he offer Sam to work in Red's for extra cash. Somehow, Cliff still looking for Sam and the end Sam help him with his research. Will it work?

It's too abrupt for Sam reveal his truth to William in William's route. Meanwhile William give Nik and Sam pressures in Nik's route by suddenly visiting them. It make them lied to him. Nik knows that William is a good guy, isn't that why he tells William about Sam? Nik can encourage Sam to tell the sheriff the full story.

In other hand, it's unreasonable for Sam to take Murdoch bet because he has Nik waiting him and Cliff on his booking list. Sam can amazed by Cliff's story about overseas and willing to help Cliff in his research with a thought that he can follows Cliff. For that, Sam works in Red's for extra cash after a night with Murdoch.

Ah well, the mental state can make someone take unreasonable decision.

"The Smoke room" refers to Sam's room. Though that, as I remember it only mentioned in Nik's route when Sam meets Cliff.  I expected that the Smoke Room is a special place along the story for all of our main characters. Yet, it a bit strange because after route selection, Sam's room become less and less mentioned. However, I realized that the team pick "The Smoke Room" as the title because it mean : "It started from the Smoke Room"

Anyway, this is a good VN. Looking for the next update....

Cheers!

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it's just not clear if nik and sam actually lied to william at the "end" of nik's route

Some scenes make this hard to play by a window (especially at ground level) but it's still good. The setup for the fork seems rather odd though... especially with how fast that seems to get resolved.

Oh yeah also are there any plans to add a CG gallery feature like how you can click on the lake in  Echo?

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The Smoke Room characters are on this site!
Personality database

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I have a question guys how often is this updated LOL because I think the worst cliffhanger is in William's route I really want him to admit that he loves Samuel

SAMEEE

Same here!

Not very often, maybe an update every 1.5 months or so, cycling through Nik>Will>Cliff>Murdoch. So probably another 3 months before another Will update.

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Is it true there's a sprite of the demon/spirit in William's route? 🤔🤔

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Yep

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Is it an April Fools thing?

Been through all routes , there all intresting and have a mystery to them

Has anyone decoded the message from the astronomy class? Just want to know before I endeavor to.

CLIFF's ROUTES IS VERY LOVELY, I LOVE THE PART WHERE MURDOCH SANG FOR THEM~!!

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i noticed that there's a pair of glowing red eyes here~No description available.

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soo i decided to brighten up the image and saw this :0No description available.

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WOAHHH!!

Intresting

Now that you point it out I see it but its easy to miss if you don't look hard

true :3

I know we just got an update 20 days ago but does anyone know when the next one will be is it usually every 3 months? Also I know Nik's route will be next afterwards is it Murdoch or William. Love Will's route  but Murdoch's cliffhanger was wild I can't wait.😭

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Actually, it is quite peculiar because build 20 (Murdoch) was released on patreon yesterday ^^ 

Wait fr? and doesn't everything that comes out on patreon come out for everyone else around 2 weeks later? So would the next update be murdoch??

wait yeah based off of the update schedule it would make sense that murdoch's route would get an update next not Nik. 

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Man… this one hits hard! No kidding, with the adult theme. If you want to know, it has a psychological horror to it. But also a normal life event that has happened in real life. I have seen these scenarios even on my family… Be careful when going in this game without some mental preparation.

Give the game a try if you have seen some similar game that have relationships that are messed up like these. I can say that it is worth the time to see perspectives with an open mind in this one.

Getting this aside, Spoilers ahead

Per route as of: Build 19

William: I started with this route, but saw what this had its hits on slavery, and having a family that you had no love to. This poor fella is messed up. And even though it is hard to see this route, I saw some perspective of the character, and thank you for that. He is kinda a slave in his work but dutiful when he needs to be, but sometimes he breaks.

Murdoch: Second time playing the game, first time on the route. A family of riches that forces marriage and abuse. I can see that happening because it is a normal event, but man, I did not expect to see him be abused like that. I actually feel bad more for this character than William… I love the coyote, but he has a better life than this fella.

New Nikolai: Third time playing the game, first time on the route. Wow, this dynamic of friends become lover I have seen in other VN´s for a while. And I can say that this one did not disappoint, we know more of the characters while they are slowly introduced to us. Nikolai is… well, kinda can’t point out how he is… I guess reserved but also kind for worrying about Sam. I know he cares a lot for Sam, but I see that he also loves Sam. (if we pick this route, of course.) I enjoy the interactions of the characters but… I feel… is hard to say, it feels conflicting stuff in the way he acts. For now, I can’t grasp completely how he is… compared to the previous ones.

Not only that, but I will continue the review after finishing the rest of the routes. It is not a full review is just my opinion so far, I’m not going through everything right now just some of it.

I have a quick question, Nik's route will still be getting updated, yes? I'm already shaking from that..thing you see. But i wanted to know it his route is done, or still getting work done on it.

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following the sequence, build 21 will be the next nik's update, unless they change something

Waitt what's the sequence? I'm i intrigued

the pattern I've observed has been like this: william, cliff, murdoch, nik. But, i think they can change it whenever they want

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THE SONG ON CLIFF AND MURDOCHS ROUTE HAD NO BUSINESS BEING SO GOOD.

AMAZING JOB AS ALWAYS

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This happened on Williams route. 🤔🤔😮😮

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Doesn't occur when I run through it on my pc, haha. Not sure what's going on there. 

-George

Crap I forgot to mention its on Android. Also it fixes itself after a few more lines of dialogue. 😅😅😃😃

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