A remake with less sex? What's the problem with sex in an 18+ Gay FVN? Is that what most fans actually wanted or are they just doing this as a final "fuck you" to George, the original, and controversial, writer?
I think the thing is that echo and the idea about it is far more interesting than sex - I personally would prefer more of the intense story without all of the salad dressing.
There's tones of sex filled furry VN, but the echo lore is far more interesting. (Just hope they don't remove all of it cause its quite fun)
I'm luckily not a gooner /coomer and I'm able to enjoy SFW VNs for the plot alone, and TSR's plot is very compelling and basically my favorite, it's just that removing the NSFW, ngl, feels like homophobic censorship.
I really hope that they at least keep the existing and continue developing the romantic elements which, IMHO, feel crucial to the development of the characters, especially William and Murdoch's. Also, Sam and Nik's relationship is beautiful and wholesome and it would suck if they tone it down.
Maybe I'm just a softie who likes watching the MCs being happy before everything goes to shit and most people only enjoy the horror and physchological distress.
excuse me - but saying it would be "homophobic censorship" is a bit of a fucking stretch. Removing sex from a game doesn't make it homophobic and saying that it does watersdown the meaning quite a bit and is honestly just offensive.
Sex isn't the be all and end all of intimate relationships - but guess we'll never know now the games cancelled
Honestly, for a guy who's annoyed by Adastra, it's nice so far. It even convinced me that Adastra is a satire. Finally, a protagonist who values free will.
Fun fact:
The amount of sand on Earth is estimated to be roughly around 10 ^23 grains, similar to the number of stars in the universe. However, considering that Khemia is a desert planet, the amount of sand on that planet could far exceed the number of stars in the universe.
Saw your comments in the Adastra page and wow, really nice way to say you didn't understood the game at all, how can someone be so confidently incorrect
"It's amazing, you're 100% wrong, i mean nothing you've said has ben right"
You aren't as media literate as you think you are, buddy.
Believe me, I think I also get "post-Adastra depression" in different way. And I really really don’t mean to dampen everyone’s mood.
It’s not that I dislike romance dramas, but… from the start of the game, Parents have been interfering—there’s no denying it. To them, romance is nothing more than a biochemical reaction. They have a reason to do this to achieve their goals. They might even mislead you into thinking they aren’t omnipotent—unless Parents truly have suffer a defeat once...
Im very passionate(and autistic) about this vn so i don't like when someone misinterprets it to this deegre, even saying the vn is "satire"
ngl, your takes on Adastra kind of reminded me of a The Owl House take i saw where someone says that Luz is a spoiled brat that made Amity's and Hunter's lives worse by "distracting them from success"(she took Hunter away from his abuser and made Amity stand up to her abusive mom)
there's the Meera ending(wich Khemia implies that it's the canon one) where Marco forces the parents to tell him the entire plan so when he goes back to earth he has the parents at his mercy, he knows tasks he'll have to do and can choose wether or not he wants to do them in advance and force the parents to come up with another way.
One of the standards I suppose for a good ending is that the right people are doing the right things. I think Amity and Hunter have achieved this—they’ve each become a better person through these events.
But the question is, has Marco done the same? What specific benefits has this journey brought him? I don’t think the answer is simply that he gained the courage to be himself, nor that he improved his arrogant attitude, because neither of these were really issues, and I don’t see how they would impact his life on Earth.
I just pointed out the TOH take cuz im saying that just like that person got the show wrong you got the vn Wrong
Just because you didn't understood it doesn't automatically make it "satire"
But i guess everyone has their own interpretation of something even if they got it wrong, like for example that bs take on TOH, Jelloapocalypse horrible video about Adventure Time and Lily Orchard's also horrible retrospective on Pokémon(those are what your take reminded me of)
But you seem determined on your view and internet "arguments" are exhausting so im going to stop and leave, and i'll leave this meme that i found on tumblr.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and not everyone has to like the same things. There are no objectively wrong opinions; that's what makes them opinions.
I find it funny how even Adastra haters love Neferu as a character lol, no one can disagree that, despite being a jackal, he is goated. At first I thought I wouldn't like him and now he's one of my favourite characters ever
i just finished adastra but i am scared to start this or interea until they are completed so i can play them all at once. i also need to rest my mental health lmfaoo ;-; AWESOME SERIES!! excited for more :)
EDIT: curiosity got the better of me and now i've read both VN's. happy to say i will gladly wait for more!
hoping the wait time in-game isn't consistent with real life though lol
Pains me since day 1 that Neferu hasn't gotten the amount of art or appreciation he deserves. Love Amicus, but come on... Anubian Jackals are my thing, Neferu is a confirmed bottom with a really, REALLY nice pair of cheeks and despite his political manipulation and demeanor... He's genuine. He's caring. He's tender. God, I just wanted to embrace him the entire time I spent whole chapters with him in Adastra. xD
im very excited for when this gets updated, but i hope the creators arent stressing over the impatient people. good writing takes a while and so does good art and music
Echo projects are focusing on finishing the smoke room but they said they are slowly working on this one. I think they want to take absolutely new approach so they rewriting it
For some reason, "Auto" does not seem to work. It highlights when I hover over it but it will not activate. The other buttons, like "Back," "History," and "Save," all seem to work. Has anyone else experienced this? Any thoughts on how to fix it?
Please tell me this isn't true, but honestly, I'm not surprised because people. I'll be honest: the wait is killing me. I want to play this update, but they'll release it when they release it.
I feel bad saying this but why do Nefaru and (in interea) Amicus look errrr.... goofy 0-0 Amicus was cute and nefaru was funny now he looks 0-0 YEAH... ahem
Yes, no, no. It takes place a while after the events of Adastra while the MC of the first game is back on Earth, you play as a diplomat to Khemia. The VN isn't finished yet though its in development and there will likely be another update this month.
You have gotten your wish. Because they have announced on a publicly available post on their patreon page That there is going to be a new build sometime in March.
(reposting this in case Echo Project doesn't check out the Adastra page's comments anymore, I'm sorry for the repost) Hi there! I love the Adastra franchise for more than two years now and I'm planning on make a game of my AU. Could I have the permission? I can draw sprites of my own if you don't want me to use the already existing assets, as well as the backgrounds. If you don't want to, I will understand either way. Thank you for reading, if you did! I will absolutely give you credit, by the way, if I end up having permission!
Seeing how all this is going Adastra is the first game Interea is the 1.5 game Khemia is the second game Maybe a 2.5 game with Marco in earth? idk and then the last game
Guys we have a Kingdom Hearts Furry franchise in our hands xd <3
Wait, one person says it sucks and it torpedoes his confidence? I mean it's a pretty good VN, it doesn't have to be perfect for it to be enjoyable for lots of people.
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Has The Smoke Room been cancelled?
A remake with less sex? What's the problem with sex in an 18+ Gay FVN? Is that what most fans actually wanted or are they just doing this as a final "fuck you" to George, the original, and controversial, writer?
I think the thing is that echo and the idea about it is far more interesting than sex - I personally would prefer more of the intense story without all of the salad dressing.
There's tones of sex filled furry VN, but the echo lore is far more interesting. (Just hope they don't remove all of it cause its quite fun)
So Sam isn't a sex worker anymore? How is that going to work in his connections to each of the main characters?
It won't work, luckily George will release the true VN.
I'm luckily not a gooner /coomer and I'm able to enjoy SFW VNs for the plot alone, and TSR's plot is very compelling and basically my favorite, it's just that removing the NSFW, ngl, feels like homophobic censorship.
I really hope that they at least keep the existing and continue developing the romantic elements which, IMHO, feel crucial to the development of the characters, especially William and Murdoch's. Also, Sam and Nik's relationship is beautiful and wholesome and it would suck if they tone it down.
Maybe I'm just a softie who likes watching the MCs being happy before everything goes to shit and most people only enjoy the horror and physchological distress.
excuse me - but saying it would be "homophobic censorship" is a bit of a fucking stretch. Removing sex from a game doesn't make it homophobic and saying that it does watersdown the meaning quite a bit and is honestly just offensive.
Sex isn't the be all and end all of intimate relationships - but guess we'll never know now the games cancelled
Honestly, for a guy who's annoyed by Adastra, it's nice so far. It even convinced me that Adastra is a satire. Finally, a protagonist who values free will.
Fun fact:
The amount of sand on Earth is estimated to be roughly around 10 ^23 grains, similar to the number of stars in the universe. However, considering that Khemia is a desert planet, the amount of sand on that planet could far exceed the number of stars in the universe.
So... to the dust!
Saw your comments in the Adastra page and wow, really nice way to say you didn't understood the game at all, how can someone be so confidently incorrect
"It's amazing, you're 100% wrong, i mean nothing you've said has ben right"
You aren't as media literate as you think you are, buddy.
Believe me, I think I also get "post-Adastra depression" in different way. And I really really don’t mean to dampen everyone’s mood.
It’s not that I dislike romance dramas, but… from the start of the game, Parents have been interfering—there’s no denying it. To them, romance is nothing more than a biochemical reaction. They have a reason to do this to achieve their goals. They might even mislead you into thinking they aren’t omnipotent—unless Parents truly have suffer a defeat once...
Im very passionate(and autistic) about this vn so i don't like when someone misinterprets it to this deegre, even saying the vn is "satire"
ngl, your takes on Adastra kind of reminded me of a The Owl House take i saw where someone says that Luz is a spoiled brat that made Amity's and Hunter's lives worse by "distracting them from success"(she took Hunter away from his abuser and made Amity stand up to her abusive mom)
So, basically they got everything wrong.
Also-
SPOILERS
there's the Meera ending(wich Khemia implies that it's the canon one) where Marco forces the parents to tell him the entire plan so when he goes back to earth he has the parents at his mercy, he knows tasks he'll have to do and can choose wether or not he wants to do them in advance and force the parents to come up with another way.
I don’t think this explains how, after receiving Amicus’s response, these actions could have a real impact on the Parents' plans.
One of the standards I suppose for a good ending is that the right people are doing the right things. I think Amity and Hunter have achieved this—they’ve each become a better person through these events.
But the question is, has Marco done the same? What specific benefits has this journey brought him? I don’t think the answer is simply that he gained the courage to be himself, nor that he improved his arrogant attitude, because neither of these were really issues, and I don’t see how they would impact his life on Earth.
I just pointed out the TOH take cuz im saying that just like that person got the show wrong you got the vn Wrong
Just because you didn't understood it doesn't automatically make it "satire"
But i guess everyone has their own interpretation of something even if they got it wrong, like for example that bs take on TOH, Jelloapocalypse horrible video about Adventure Time and Lily Orchard's also horrible retrospective on Pokémon(those are what your take reminded me of)
But you seem determined on your view and internet "arguments" are exhausting so im going to stop and leave, and i'll leave this meme that i found on tumblr.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and not everyone has to like the same things. There are no objectively wrong opinions; that's what makes them opinions.
I already replied to someone else with my thoughts on this.
I find it funny how even Adastra haters love Neferu as a character lol, no one can disagree that, despite being a jackal, he is goated. At first I thought I wouldn't like him and now he's one of my favourite characters ever
The fact that the first remake build is coming in a couple days has me tweaking
I tweaked so much that I'm having seizures thinking of it
where is our update 😭
So, from Echo's Patron Haps and Howly are back to working on Khemia.
i just finished adastra but i am scared to start this or interea until they are completed so i can play them all at once. i also need to rest my mental health lmfaoo ;-; AWESOME SERIES!! excited for more :)
EDIT: curiosity got the better of me and now i've read both VN's. happy to say i will gladly wait for more!
hoping the wait time in-game isn't consistent with real life though lol
Just wait another year or two :3
someone know if the game is in spanish? Or where i can download in spanish?
as a nerfu enjoyer im overly exited for the next build
Pains me since day 1 that Neferu hasn't gotten the amount of art or appreciation he deserves. Love Amicus, but come on... Anubian Jackals are my thing, Neferu is a confirmed bottom with a really, REALLY nice pair of cheeks and despite his political manipulation and demeanor... He's genuine. He's caring. He's tender. God, I just wanted to embrace him the entire time I spent whole chapters with him in Adastra. xD
It's Nerfu or Nothing!
Esperare lo que tenga que esperar, sin apuros 🍝🐢🤚
im very excited for when this gets updated, but i hope the creators arent stressing over the impatient people. good writing takes a while and so does good art and music
Echo projects are focusing on finishing the smoke room but they said they are slowly working on this one. I think they want to take absolutely new approach so they rewriting it
I sure hope this VN continues
any news on this vn?
i saw haps' new sprites for neferu on their patreon a while back so i guess progress is being made
For some reason, "Auto" does not seem to work. It highlights when I hover over it but it will not activate. The other buttons, like "Back," "History," and "Save," all seem to work. Has anyone else experienced this? Any thoughts on how to fix it?
It seems to work fine in other VNs.
The game is great so far! I would like to see a gallery option like there is in Adastra though.
Reach to stars they said.. And now, Left in the dust.
waiting to long for another KHEMIA UPDATE OMG.
I love waiting a decade for finished VNs
Lore accurate wait time LOL
Marco's mission from Parents lasts 8 years. 3 years have passed. Well... will it be?
????wh-
Please tell me this isn't true, but honestly, I'm not surprised because people. I'll be honest: the wait is killing me. I want to play this update, but they'll release it when they release it.
I feel bad saying this but why do Nefaru and (in interea) Amicus look errrr.... goofy 0-0 Amicus was cute and nefaru was funny now he looks 0-0 YEAH... ahem
I would be very grateful if someone notifies me the update drops <3
anyone know when the update is droping?
W....what did they do to you Nefaru!
OMG UPDATE
PLEASE! The wait is killing me . . . I am just itching to play the first part. In seriousness, release the new version when you guys are ready too.
So... a public patreon post said there would be a new public build in mid to late march. It's now the 28th, what's going on?!
Bro i got so sad when I saw the bit to be continue. I thought it was done. I was so invested!!!!!
Is this game a continuation of Adastra? Is it complete? Do I play with the same character as Adastra?
Yes, no, no. It takes place a while after the events of Adastra while the MC of the first game is back on Earth, you play as a diplomat to Khemia. The VN isn't finished yet though its in development and there will likely be another update this month.
Scipio my husband, please return to me 😩
You have gotten your wish. Because they have announced on a publicly available post on their patreon page That there is going to be a new build sometime in March.
its the middle of march im getting worried already
it do be like that
I don't want to play this till it's complete, but it seems like I'm gonna be waiting a while....
the echo project are actually known to finish their vns so atleast you can be sure itll be finished at some point lmao
Camping for a new update~
(reposting this in case Echo Project doesn't check out the Adastra page's comments anymore, I'm sorry for the repost) Hi there! I love the Adastra franchise for more than two years now and I'm planning on make a game of my AU. Could I have the permission? I can draw sprites of my own if you don't want me to use the already existing assets, as well as the backgrounds. If you don't want to, I will understand either way. Thank you for reading, if you did! I will absolutely give you credit, by the way, if I end up having permission!
GOODLUCK!!! (I mean in a Good Way <333)
Is this being... updated anymore? I'm suffering without any content of the story I love, that's unfinished, and visibly abandoned
Yes, it was put in hiatus for a while but work has restarted again.
Yesss!!!
Seeing how all this is going
Adastra is the first game
Interea is the 1.5 game
Khemia is the second game
Maybe a 2.5 game with Marco in earth? idk
and then the last game
Guys we have a Kingdom Hearts Furry franchise in our hands xd <3
I which they could continue this
Just a message I'd like passed on to Haps, please. You do good!
MAKE MORE OF THEM PLSS ECHO PROJECT PLSS I TO SEE AMICUS AGAIN..
I'm really excited for updates
yes this and any adastra content will be abandoned for while from sources that I some acquaintance with the developers
From what Haps posted, and the Echo Project Twitter reposting it, it doesn't seem like it's going anywhere
Wait, one person says it sucks and it torpedoes his confidence? I mean it's a pretty good VN, it doesn't have to be perfect for it to be enjoyable for lots of people.
someone on the internet said that my writing sucks :ccc
si ahí pone que la version a descargar es la 2, ¿porque se me instala la 1?