Does anyone know which ending Khemia takes place after, if either? I think it's ending B, because an event that only happens in it is referenced I think? Was wondering if anyone can confirm one way or the other
Ending B just made canon because of that sequence in 2nd build of Khemia. Ending B is where instead of looking through the vision of the Parents' eyes, Marco instead had a conversation with Meera.
Neferu's race once tried to uplift life on Earth (in fact the Parents had all the sibling races do it at one time or another) and is probably responsible for the appearance of the Egyptian Jackal headed god Anubis.
I don't really get all these conversions people are doing, given that the lingua translates such that it provides the best understanding for the listener, presumably it's already in earth years???
Yes and no, from my understanding. The Lingua does translate an approximation that would fit our (human) understanding of abstract conceptions (time), but I think they were trying to convert it to Wolven years? Which wouldn't work though, since it was never explained how many days are in a year on Adastra, only that there are 19 hours in a day, IIRC.
Yes, but surely the Lingua wouldn't have given us the amount of time in Wolven years, precisely because we have no intuition of how long that is like Amicus would, hence my thinking that it's most likely already in human years
Try uninstalling the apk then reinstall it again, if that doesn’t work, check if your storage is full and try to delete some things. It always happens to me too.
I just did it on my computer, I wasn't home at the time of trying to read it so I was trying to get it on my phone. No VN's work on my phone for some reason anymore sadly idk why. Also Love your pfp I also got started on that VN and I'm hooked!
I'm still playing, but I can't help but wonder, will we ever get to see Cassius and Alexios again...? Unpopular opinion, but I really really liked them!
Well... Don't be offended, but I guess that's would be impossible to have a routes on each character from Khemia. But only Neferu and Scipio's story...
how do the updates work for android? do i have to downloaded again? will i have to aplications or will it directly update the one i alredy have? sorry for so many questions
I haven't stated this one but normally you just install the new apk while the old one is still there. It will realize it's a newer version and install as a update. However if this is anything like the other games they released echoproject then you can't update and unfortunately just got to delete the game along with its save data and install the new one and start from the beginning. This is what I did with there last game and eventually I just stopped and waited for it to be complete. Unlike other projects though these don't take as long to complete aside from echo but I stopped caring about that game when Flynn meet his unfortunate end with no way to help him.
many cheraters in these games start out kind of a butt. It's when you help them deal with there problems when they get good and you do start to help flynn with them a little before he you know what ever you can call what happened to him happened. It may not have been with the MC but he was getting better. I'm also used to the idea of a Visual novel only having a bad end when you do something wrong so when I got his end I searched the comments to find out what I messed up and found that no it's all supposed to happen and that just annoyed me. So I just never bothered with any other route. I never even looked at smoke room because the same thing is probably going to happen in that. I'll get attached to a cherater then will have a bad I never played the other routes but the others all seem to have some kind of good or neutral end but flynn just has this one bad one. It doesn't really seem fare for the players that may have liked him. Plus he's scaly in a fandom over run by wolves and fox people I like to play the games with scales.
We probably won't see any reunion in Khemia since Marco has only been on Earth for a little over 2 years and his mission is 8 years. Perhaps in the next series after Khemia. As for the number of builds, I think Adastra was like 16 or so long.
i dont think i could wear my ring for the 8 year gap either, it would hurt too much to look at, i'd wear it on a necklace as a pendant under my clothing
I mean, Amicus did give Marco an engagement ring, so only Marco is suppose to wear the ring, unless they did already get married, the only one who wears the ring is Marco
It the sequel to Adastra. Since most of the story is taking place on Khemia I guess they decided to call it that.
They might even do something like name each new sequel based on the world where they take place, and since the Parents want Amicus to join the Galaxias together we might see each new sequel name and taking place on a different Sibling home world as he goes about that task.
Well, we don't know about that but one can hope so. I have a theory that the Adastra series will last 8 years like how the separation of Marco and Amicus will take 8 years.
i really, really, hope not, i can't wait that long to reunite with the wolf I love, I dont think my heart could take it, I need amicus and marco reuniting to happen like, next game ;w;
Actually this Khemia chapter is taking place 3 years after the Cato riots and the MC left 9 months after that so this story is taking place a little over 2 years after Adastra. So the MC still has 6 years to go.
I do hope the in the chapter after this one that the MC shows up again though. Even if it's only the MC and Amicus being able to send letter/email via their portals. There is bound to be some way considering that Amicus is getting updates about what is happening on Earth (however delayed they may be).
im pretty sure the Iva pox is the black plague it hadnt been seen in 1000 of years and no cure was made and the symptoms are quite the same to one another
(I made an account to comment on this ^^') The bubonic plague has a vaccine made for it, antibiotics can easily treat it, there are some recent cases (although we haven't seen epidemics or pandemics of it), buboes are much larger than a simple rash and, if I recall correctly, pox of any kind is caused by viruses. In short - I doubt Yersinia Pestis is involved in avia pox.
i have very supid question. time of which planet will be used to measure those 8 years (of marko earth mission)?
I just decided to calculate how long these 8 years will last on different planets. i got big difference in days (more when 600). it means that 8 years on adastra, its only 6,5 years on earth.
in this case, amicus will be arrive at earth 1,5 years earlier, or he will wait 2 more years of adastra.
Because of how the Lingua works, I think it's probably in earth years, and Amicus would have heard a different number that's more understandable for him
I like the (whether intentional or unintentional) correlation between the Galaxias Factions and the factions from Games Workshop's Warhammer 40,000 factions. Most particularly how similar and the 3 we know of are to 3 main factions within Warhammer 40,000.
Adastra - Similar to The Imperium of Man. Prideful and stoic yet regressive in their ways. It's an Empire of fools and reluctant progressives. And rampant in the Xenophobia, seeing any other species below the primary, in this case: Wolves being the Primary. And also editing their history constantly to make them see superior or to erase their shame. They even have the Roman Aesthetic similar, as when the Imperium first started it had a heavy roman aesthetic. Also in the religious factor, seeing the parents as guidance and looking to them as hopeful as possible in the same way the Imperium looks to the Emperor. But that's where the similarities end.
The Jackals: The Tau. Incredibly advanced technology, "acceptance and equality" of all beings and outstanding living conditions. They have an almost artificial type of "Faster than light" travel made on their own, like how the Tau made their own semi-artificial Warp-Drive. Tau have all of the above and what got me even more is how they started war in the first place. Khemians were "uplifting" the Wolve's outer planets that were untouched and that's how they went to war with Adastra. The Tau did something similar, they went to Imperial Border worlds and pretty much did the same, giving better living conditions and colonies, which sparked a war with the Imperium. Once again, that's where the similarities end.
Next is the Cats, not much is known about them but the way that Alexios speaks is more than enough. His mission was to be manipulative and cause chaos and anarchy while maintaining some kind of "Destiny" arc for his species. Cunning, manipulation, lying and indirect destruction of others... The cats are almost like the Eldar. Almost.
That's where most of the similarities end, whether intentional or unintentional, it's awesome either way. And it seems more like there's a correlation between these factions and Frank Herbert's Dune, which is JUST as fascinating and awesome. Especially how Khemia could be presented to us. I'm hoping we'll see SO much more in the Adastra universe, I'm excruciatingly excited and loving every moment. We await patiently. ^w^
Yes, but you're also forgetting what humanity has to offer. Our cultures, religions, histories and traditions are a melting pot that have resulted in thousands of years to create bases for morals, philosophies, writings, poetry, literature, music, logic, statistics, and science. Humanity would be a glorious marvel to the Galaxias, and shows there can be peace through the diversity.
Even the literature such as plays, poetry, legends, epics and mythology would astound even the most popular of actors within the Adastra theatre. Yes, humanity has flaws and devastating weapons of mass destruction but all the species have flaws. The Wolves are prideful and racist and the Jackals are arrogant and impulsive, and the Cats are manipulative and cunning. And don't forget that Cato was probably a Genocidal maniac using Cassius as a pawn.
Humanity would be a learning curve and a beauty to the Galaxias.
if that happens we can't play as Marco on this Sequel, instead we can only play as Scipio on this sequel, let's just hope after the final build of Khemia we can play as Marco again, maybe?...
POSSIBLE SPOILERS FROM ADASTRA, ECHO AND THE SMOKE ROOM AHEAD
Have you guys noticed how when the main characters in these VNs are in a dark place mentally they tend to “hallucinate” with this insidious voice trying to bring them down further? At first I thought this feature was exclusive from the Echoverse (Echo and The smoke room) in which this voice it’s already been identified as an actual real being that haunts everyone in the town of Echo. However in this build of Khemia Scipio is going through a very similar experience with all these self-destructive thoughts/voices haunting him and yeah, it just kind of reminds me of what the characters in Echo and The smoke room go through.
Now, do you guys remember how at some point in Adastra’s plot they mention this malevolent entity that’s spreading through the universe? I can’t remember how they called, but it’s implied this thing is responsible of many unexplained creepy things and it seems to manifest at random spots all across the universe haunting or cursing these places (like the haunting at the university in Adastra). If you have come up to this point reading you can probably guess what’s coming already, but here’s my theory anyway:
What if the events from Adastra, Khemia, Echo and The smoke room are actually happening in different locations of the same universe? What if the evil entity that haunts Echo is actually explained by one of these random haunted spots that branch from the entity mentioned in Adastra? I think it would be a really cool move from The Echo Project to merge all of their VNs in the same universe through this idea.
It would be nice to know what you think guys, in my opinion it kinda fits too well to be just a coincidence, but I’d really love to know what other readers think of this. Also happy new year everyone <3
I wouldn't think that is true since the nations of the world and countries are very different in Adastra/Khemia than Echo/The Smoke Room. I think in Adastra/Khemia the Earth is the same Earth we live on. While in Echo/The Smoke Room, it has different nations and countries. Also, there are no humans in any of the story in Echo or The Smoke Room.
But that is the point, I'm not saying Adastra's Earth and Echo's "Earth" are the same planet. What I meant is that Echo and the smoke room events are happening in a whole different planet, but placed in the same universe.
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Does anyone know which ending Khemia takes place after, if either? I think it's ending B, because an event that only happens in it is referenced I think? Was wondering if anyone can confirm one way or the other
The ending where the human lives and return to Earth.
that's both endings tho?
It's the happy ending, the ending with the human and amicus married and wating the 8 years to see each other again
and what is the other one? if you dont mind me asking
again... that's both endings
then what is the difference?
Ending B just made canon because of that sequence in 2nd build of Khemia. Ending B is where instead of looking through the vision of the Parents' eyes, Marco instead had a conversation with Meera.
Ok, that's what I figured, just wanted to get a second opinion
Heyy!!! I love this visual novel, quick question, did any God, inspire the character Neferu
Neferu's race once tried to uplift life on Earth (in fact the Parents had all the sibling races do it at one time or another) and is probably responsible for the appearance of the Egyptian Jackal headed god Anubis.
Oh okay! What about other characters? or is it just Neferu , that was inspired by Anubis
Neferu I ("the beauty") was the first queen of Ancient Egyptian Eleventh dynasty. She was a wife of the Pharaoh Mentuhotep I.
Well Neferu of Khemia is kind of a "queen" too in his own way.
honestly i was kinda cri at first because you dont play as mr human, but now i not cri because this is as always epic
Mood right here
i had nothing to do, and i counted how much wolfs living, by earthly standarts
so, i take 100 years of earth and convert it for hours, i got 876000 hours
later, i take 100 years of adastra and i got 693500 hours
wolves living for 300 years, it will be 2080500 hours. i convert it to earth years. and result: wolves live least 237,5 earth years...
its useless but i did it
I don't really get all these conversions people are doing, given that the lingua translates such that it provides the best understanding for the listener, presumably it's already in earth years???
jesus you really didnt have anything to do
Yes and no, from my understanding. The Lingua does translate an approximation that would fit our (human) understanding of abstract conceptions (time), but I think they were trying to convert it to Wolven years? Which wouldn't work though, since it was never explained how many days are in a year on Adastra, only that there are 19 hours in a day, IIRC.
Yes, but surely the Lingua wouldn't have given us the amount of time in Wolven years, precisely because we have no intuition of how long that is like Amicus would, hence my thinking that it's most likely already in human years
you give me obsessive fan vibes
ive made my own alphabet I feel alive
w is a house
yep
I really have we can see some kind of closure with Amicus and the human in later builds, like maybe a reunion or something, I feel so bad for him.
we all do ;-;
watch this its beautiful
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I was excited about this series of games: Adastra and now Khemia.
I wonder what the third series is from now😆🔥
YES! YES! YES!
YES! YES!
LMG MOUNTED AND LOADED!!!!!
i know gun's name when i see one
:o
Hey can someone help me im on android and im trying to install this but it keeps saying spp not intalled ever time I try
Try uninstalling the apk then reinstall it again, if that doesn’t work, check if your storage is full and try to delete some things. It always happens to me too.
I just did it on my computer, I wasn't home at the time of trying to read it so I was trying to get it on my phone. No VN's work on my phone for some reason anymore sadly idk why. Also Love your pfp I also got started on that VN and I'm hooked!
I'm still playing, but I can't help but wonder, will we ever get to see Cassius and Alexios again...? Unpopular opinion, but I really really liked them!
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Will Neferu and Brunis have a route?
Well... Don't be offended, but I guess that's would be impossible to have a routes on each character from Khemia. But only Neferu and Scipio's story...
Howly loaded so many bullets into Chekov's gun this update. When that thing starts firing it's gonna be one hell of a show.
how do the updates work for android? do i have to downloaded again? will i have to aplications or will it directly update the one i alredy have? sorry for so many questions
download it*
will i have two*
(sorry for the errors)
you realize theres a thing called edi
*edit
I haven't stated this one but normally you just install the new apk while the old one is still there. It will realize it's a newer version and install as a update. However if this is anything like the other games they released echoproject then you can't update and unfortunately just got to delete the game along with its save data and install the new one and start from the beginning. This is what I did with there last game and eventually I just stopped and waited for it to be complete. Unlike other projects though these don't take as long to complete aside from echo but I stopped caring about that game when Flynn meet his unfortunate end with no way to help him.
Flynn was a butt tho, also it wouldn't be less scary if everyone had a happy end, although irc his route is still going last I checked
many cheraters in these games start out kind of a butt. It's when you help them deal with there problems when they get good and you do start to help flynn with them a little before he you know what ever you can call what happened to him happened. It may not have been with the MC but he was getting better. I'm also used to the idea of a Visual novel only having a bad end when you do something wrong so when I got his end I searched the comments to find out what I messed up and found that no it's all supposed to happen and that just annoyed me. So I just never bothered with any other route. I never even looked at smoke room because the same thing is probably going to happen in that. I'll get attached to a cherater then will have a bad I never played the other routes but the others all seem to have some kind of good or neutral end but flynn just has this one bad one. It doesn't really seem fare for the players that may have liked him. Plus he's scaly in a fandom over run by wolves and fox people I like to play the games with scales.
okay thank youuu
We probably won't see any reunion in Khemia since Marco has only been on Earth for a little over 2 years and his mission is 8 years. Perhaps in the next series after Khemia. As for the number of builds, I think Adastra was like 16 or so long.
Well, Wolfman, looks like you can't really wait..
You and I are in the same boat, buddy... 😁
the Mac download is labeled as linux, can't wait to try
I'm Addicted.
you seem addicted
Amazing! The build 2 (Guidance and Delusions) was AWESOME!!! Good Job EchoProject, and I hope the build 3 will be amazing too..😁
When will the next update be released?
In a few days or so, according to the twitter 👍
The fact Amicus isn't wearing his ring on his sprite hurts my soul a lil.
i dont think i could wear my ring for the 8 year gap either, it would hurt too much to look at, i'd wear it on a necklace as a pendant under my clothing
I mean, Amicus did give Marco an engagement ring, so only Marco is suppose to wear the ring, unless they did already get married, the only one who wears the ring is Marco
Amicus has a stretch ring on his finger in the "The end" screen as well, hence why i'm sad
They are probably reusing the old sprites from Adastra for now. I'm sure they will add it in later (budget allowing of course).
Aren’t the sprites pretty different though?
They look different in the preview screenshots
Ok, so just to be clear, is this the project that was once referred to as Adastra II, or is another Amicus game in the works?
It the sequel to Adastra. Since most of the story is taking place on Khemia I guess they decided to call it that.
They might even do something like name each new sequel based on the world where they take place, and since the Parents want Amicus to join the Galaxias together we might see each new sequel name and taking place on a different Sibling home world as he goes about that task.
Well, we don't know about that but one can hope so. I have a theory that the Adastra series will last 8 years like how the separation of Marco and Amicus will take 8 years.
i really, really, hope not, i can't wait that long to reunite with the wolf I love, I dont think my heart could take it, I need amicus and marco reuniting to happen like, next game ;w;
imma show you marcos face
Actually this Khemia chapter is taking place 3 years after the Cato riots and the MC left 9 months after that so this story is taking place a little over 2 years after Adastra. So the MC still has 6 years to go.
I do hope the in the chapter after this one that the MC shows up again though. Even if it's only the MC and Amicus being able to send letter/email via their portals. There is bound to be some way considering that Amicus is getting updates about what is happening on Earth (however delayed they may be).
hey does anyone know when the next update will be out ?
it should be the 1/31 that is what it says on patreon
所以这里面的人类主角“我”还会出现吗？？怎么感觉是以scip为视角主角了
im pretty sure the Iva pox is the black plague it hadnt been seen in 1000 of years and no cure was made and the symptoms are quite the same to one another
(I made an account to comment on this ^^') The bubonic plague has a vaccine made for it, antibiotics can easily treat it, there are some recent cases (although we haven't seen epidemics or pandemics of it), buboes are much larger than a simple rash and, if I recall correctly, pox of any kind is caused by viruses. In short - I doubt Yersinia Pestis is involved in avia pox.
It also doesn't kill you in a matter of hours, like it happened with Marco.
It's another disease exclusive to adastra, I think they said theres a vaccine but they didnt have one for humans irc
hey its just a theory
i really wanna be hype for this and enjoy it, but i miss amicus so much ;w;
me too
in need amicus drawn in 10 different style
comment what style you want
anime schoolgirl style)
i respect that but i cant draw
so imma follow you on itch.io
but C.Q.C is my perk
Steven universe style
are they still keep updating the khemia or they will release another game that still connected to adastra?
i have very supid question. time of which planet will be used to measure those 8 years (of marko earth mission)?
I just decided to calculate how long these 8 years will last on different planets. i got big difference in days (more when 600). it means that 8 years on adastra, its only 6,5 years on earth.
in this case, amicus will be arrive at earth 1,5 years earlier, or he will wait 2 more years of adastra.
sorry for my eng...
Because of how the Lingua works, I think it's probably in earth years, and Amicus would have heard a different number that's more understandable for him
Uhh I have not played yet but is Scorpio going to date amicus. I kinda hope not xD. But I am interested in seeing where it goes
If anything, Scipio will probably end up with Neferu. I can easily see this happening, but with Scipio.
lol
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I like the (whether intentional or unintentional) correlation between the Galaxias Factions and the factions from Games Workshop's Warhammer 40,000 factions. Most particularly how similar and the 3 we know of are to 3 main factions within Warhammer 40,000.
Adastra - Similar to The Imperium of Man. Prideful and stoic yet regressive in their ways. It's an Empire of fools and reluctant progressives. And rampant in the Xenophobia, seeing any other species below the primary, in this case: Wolves being the Primary. And also editing their history constantly to make them see superior or to erase their shame. They even have the Roman Aesthetic similar, as when the Imperium first started it had a heavy roman aesthetic. Also in the religious factor, seeing the parents as guidance and looking to them as hopeful as possible in the same way the Imperium looks to the Emperor. But that's where the similarities end.
The Jackals: The Tau. Incredibly advanced technology, "acceptance and equality" of all beings and outstanding living conditions. They have an almost artificial type of "Faster than light" travel made on their own, like how the Tau made their own semi-artificial Warp-Drive. Tau have all of the above and what got me even more is how they started war in the first place. Khemians were "uplifting" the Wolve's outer planets that were untouched and that's how they went to war with Adastra. The Tau did something similar, they went to Imperial Border worlds and pretty much did the same, giving better living conditions and colonies, which sparked a war with the Imperium. Once again, that's where the similarities end.
Next is the Cats, not much is known about them but the way that Alexios speaks is more than enough. His mission was to be manipulative and cause chaos and anarchy while maintaining some kind of "Destiny" arc for his species. Cunning, manipulation, lying and indirect destruction of others... The cats are almost like the Eldar. Almost.
That's where most of the similarities end, whether intentional or unintentional, it's awesome either way. And it seems more like there's a correlation between these factions and Frank Herbert's Dune, which is JUST as fascinating and awesome. Especially how Khemia could be presented to us. I'm hoping we'll see SO much more in the Adastra universe, I'm excruciatingly excited and loving every moment. We await patiently. ^w^
how in the... nevermind ://
hi wolfman
good and you
oh and look at this
When will there be a Part 2?
it will be great if a human ambassador is introduced in the game and what will he/or she will look like and maybe bodyguards
But how can he be in khemia and earth in the same time
I mean like a ambassador that's not Marco but on the behalf of the U.N to khemia
Until there is a vaccine for avia pox, Marco is the only human who can safely leave the planet.
they have drones but we have guns and nukes why are we being integrated to the galixias again?
I dont know but i feel like it would be a bad idea
Yes, but you're also forgetting what humanity has to offer. Our cultures, religions, histories and traditions are a melting pot that have resulted in thousands of years to create bases for morals, philosophies, writings, poetry, literature, music, logic, statistics, and science. Humanity would be a glorious marvel to the Galaxias, and shows there can be peace through the diversity.
Even the literature such as plays, poetry, legends, epics and mythology would astound even the most popular of actors within the Adastra theatre. Yes, humanity has flaws and devastating weapons of mass destruction but all the species have flaws. The Wolves are prideful and racist and the Jackals are arrogant and impulsive, and the Cats are manipulative and cunning. And don't forget that Cato was probably a Genocidal maniac using Cassius as a pawn.
Humanity would be a learning curve and a beauty to the Galaxias.
oh i didnt factor that but we did the same tho
oh btw Cassius is a real person and was conspired on the assassination attempt on Julius Caesar
I want know what happens next please
When can we expect build 2
if that happens we can't play as Marco on this Sequel, instead we can only play as Scipio on this sequel, let's just hope after the final build of Khemia we can play as Marco again, maybe?...
I just came up with a somewhat crazy theory:
POSSIBLE SPOILERS FROM ADASTRA, ECHO AND THE SMOKE ROOM AHEAD
Have you guys noticed how when the main characters in these VNs are in a dark place mentally they tend to “hallucinate” with this insidious voice trying to bring them down further? At first I thought this feature was exclusive from the Echoverse (Echo and The smoke room) in which this voice it’s already been identified as an actual real being that haunts everyone in the town of Echo. However in this build of Khemia Scipio is going through a very similar experience with all these self-destructive thoughts/voices haunting him and yeah, it just kind of reminds me of what the characters in Echo and The smoke room go through.
Now, do you guys remember how at some point in Adastra’s plot they mention this malevolent entity that’s spreading through the universe? I can’t remember how they called, but it’s implied this thing is responsible of many unexplained creepy things and it seems to manifest at random spots all across the universe haunting or cursing these places (like the haunting at the university in Adastra). If you have come up to this point reading you can probably guess what’s coming already, but here’s my theory anyway:
What if the events from Adastra, Khemia, Echo and The smoke room are actually happening in different locations of the same universe? What if the evil entity that haunts Echo is actually explained by one of these random haunted spots that branch from the entity mentioned in Adastra? I think it would be a really cool move from The Echo Project to merge all of their VNs in the same universe through this idea.
It would be nice to know what you think guys, in my opinion it kinda fits too well to be just a coincidence, but I’d really love to know what other readers think of this. Also happy new year everyone <3
I wouldn't think that is true since the nations of the world and countries are very different in Adastra/Khemia than Echo/The Smoke Room. I think in Adastra/Khemia the Earth is the same Earth we live on. While in Echo/The Smoke Room, it has different nations and countries. Also, there are no humans in any of the story in Echo or The Smoke Room.
But that is the point, I'm not saying Adastra's Earth and Echo's "Earth" are the same planet. What I meant is that Echo and the smoke room events are happening in a whole different planet, but placed in the same universe.
Oh, hm. Well, there are no facts with, or against this being true. I guess this can be a cool headcanon until it is revealed to be true or not.
It's all probably wishfull thinking, but I think it's a fun theory to think of :3