[Kinda Spoiler Warning] Def recommend playing the game.
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So, I had put off playing Echo for the longest, as when I originally planned to play I was not in the right headspace and it definitely touched on subjects I was sensitive about. I type this a few hours after finishing Leo's route, and I have got to say this is one of the most lore driven stories I have ever read for furry media. The atmosphere of the town is captured perfectly by the solum and nostalgic tracks that play during the car, and relaxed scenes. The world building is also beautiful, as it doesn't flood the reader with information about Echo(The Town) the moment they play, rather it slowly reveals itself through character dialogue and internal monologues. The game encourages you to play all the routes in order to reveal the entire story and help explain as to why everyone is at each other's throats. The game also does a wonderful job at tying itself to Route 64, The Smoke Room which is the Prequel to Echo, and Arches, which takes place 5 years after the events of Echo. The characters, while falling a little into archetypes, mesh perfectly with each other in the disharmony seen throughout the game. Echo does have nsfw themes and scenes, but it isn't reliant on those to get you hooked.
Absolutely phenomenal game, it inspires me for my own projects and encourages me to pursue them by showing just how much of an impact it can have on people. I highly recommend playing this game, the lore alone is enough to keep you, but also gives some healthy nsfw service for anyone looking for that as well. I look forward to playing TSR and Arches(when it gets a bit further ahead) and I hope that by playing them, I will more clearly understand my own goals in the stories that I wish to tell.
Wow. Normally I wait a couple of days after experiencing either a movie or a game so as I can gather my thoughts and collate all the positives and negatives but, in this case, I don't really want to wait. I'll leave it to better writers to sum up this game because I don't think I could do it justice. Just want to say thank you to all who worked on this. I'm in fricking bits and I've only completed one storyline so far aha. I was not expecting to be put on the kind of fairground ride Echo let me enjoy/ endure. Even just hearing the opening notes on the main menu hits like a train.
Edit: Immediately after posting, I realize the only other game that did me like this was Life is Strange. Whenever one of *those* decisions came up, I would just slide the keyboard away and stare at the screen for five agonizing minutes lol.
Last Edit: I finished playing through all the characters. Even though my heart weighed heavy every time I started the game up and heard those opening musical notes, I came back every evening. Again I’ll say, thank you to the developers and the writers of this game. I’ve not felt an emotional connection with a game like this since,… I don’t even know. I wanted all of these broken, brilliant people to live and live their best lives. Thank you thank you thank you.
What a ride! This took me a while to finish, but it was worth the ride. My mind still boggles at how amazing this Visual Novel was when it comes to revealing the mystery of the town of Echo and how every path slowly builds up the complete picture. I really like how every character is unique but flawed, nearly pushing them close to the line of being unlikeable but somehow making them feel so human because of it. Everyone is fucked up in their own way and trying to find a way to live despite this fact.
Even after finishing the game, I notice that I’m still missing some pictures/days, which I assume is the result of me choosing a ‘different’ path, so I might replay some parts of the game to unlock them later. If anyone wants to know, my route was T.J. > Flynn > Leo > Carl > Jenna. (Pretty much choices from top to bottom when choosing which route to get.)
I plan on reading Arches since it is nearly done, but saving The Smoking Room for when it is complete.
[SPOILERS] ****
For the most part, I think Jenna and Flynn’s route explains most of what is happening in Echo, but even after reading all the paths, I am still a bit confused about some of the events.
When going through the game, I thought the dreams were premonitions about events that could or already happened. An example of these is when Chase dreams about the car with Leo and the gang sinking into the lake which plays out in both Leo and Flynn’s route, and when Chase dreams about Samuel getting run over by Sydney’s father. But there were other dreams that didn’t make an appearance, like when Flynn tells Chase to get on his knees to dig something out of the dirt, which I assume is either a reference to the treasure hunt, the body of Samuel, or even the body of Sydney’s father.
Why did Chase see Carl in the abandoned school when taking pictures for his project on Flynn’s route? I thought this suggests the idea that Carl has taken part in setting up Syndey’s treasure hunt, but this wasn’t implied in the other routes other than T.J. and Flynn’s.
Were there other people possessing Chase other than Samuel? There are some comments which make sense for Samuel to make, like the ones in Leo and Jenna’s route, but there are others that seem a bit weird. Having the voice taught Chase and making the choices for him. It makes me think that there are also other things giving input to Chase, possibly people who were possessed or even the Hum itself.
Speaking of possession, how does it work? It would seem that killing the person who was possessed gets them to become possessed themselves, yet, in Flynn’s route Flynn didn’t kill Chase. Maybe the way to get possessed is to do something regretful to them or even have the person who was getting possessed face their fear to become unpossessed.
Was Carl also possessed? When taking the acid trip with Jermeny, having him hear the voices ridicule Carl was weird. Is his great great great whatever possessing him at that moment, or was it the Hums that was talking to him since he also sees Chase next to him?
When going through one of the extra clips with Flynn, I find it strange that we are really not spectating anyone from their perspective. We see Chase, Carl, T.J., Leo, and Jenna's perspectives in the extra clips but not Flynn's. It was like we were watching the events happening from the sideline, which was weird.
Strangely, the monster is simultaneously helping and putting the gang in danger, which I find odd. They go from helping the gang escape from Brian to kicking them into the lake, nearly drowning them. It is as if the monster is playing with them, which seems a bit mean even coming from Flynn or they were just following fate.
I don’t remember much about it, but I recall there was something in Leo’s route that was strange. It was as if it was directing the focus not on Chase, but on us the reader. Why did this happen? How did the ‘thing’ addresses a person other than Chase at that moment?
Secrets seem to be an important part of the hysteria since killing Flynn in T.J.’s route seems to stop it, even if it was a little while. I wonder if this holds any meaning with Jenna’s and Carl’s ancestors and hope it gets explained in The Smoking Room.
I always thought that the events in Echo happen in a time loop, forcing the people within it to relive the same events over and over again. Like they are going in circles, forced to continue this game until the Hum is done with them. But I don’t think this is the case since there is a sequel VN which takes place five years after the events of Echo, but strangely it only shows clips of it when Flynn is dead. This leads me to think that the events that happen in Arches only occur in either T.J. or Flynn’s route.
Most of this might be me misremembering things since it did take me a while to finish reading this, so I might reread it later.
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This experience, is one of those where when your done, you just kinda go, "what now?". I played this whilst high so maybe I thought a lot more on it, but it kinda changed how I look at life. 10/10, I definitely would recommend, maybe without the weed haha. The Flynn ending that I played was very interesting, learning that the monster only just recently trying to kill the troop was "Flynn" was a unique experience that definitely cannot be replicated. In fact this whole story is an experience that cannot be replicated or experienced again through something else. It was most definitely because I was high whilst playing but it did change me. And it was for the better, so I thank thee Echo project, this is certainly something I will remember for the rest of my life. If I could suggest, I think this kind of story (I don't know the specific name but I'll just explain it as dark and heavy) would do good in a noir fashion. Definitely not this story directly, but maybe something akin to it, but whatever the next project may be I look forward to it regardless!
spoiler time. In leo's good end, Chase and the Voice in his head(I cant remember the name) say "Fuck you..." at the same time, Verbally, but nobody hears. Then it goes like this.(Assume if something isnt bold, it is chase.) "We say the words under my breath, but there's more rage behind them than anything I've ever said in my life. And they're meant for Echo. Fuck you for killing Janice." "Fuck you for hurting William." "Fuck you for killing Duke." "Fuck you for hurting Cliff." "Fuck you for what's buried in the mines." "Fuck you for hurting Nik." "Fuck you for twisting my friends into something they're not." "Fuck you for hurting Cynthia and Murdoch."
The song "505" reminds me of Echo and the whole mess of Chase and Leo's relationship. the main reason is the whole reason the song is called 505. "I'm going back to 505, if it's a 7 hour flight, or a 45 minute drive." totally fitting with the hate from (most of) the main cast for Echo.
I rarely read fiction, but plowed through every word of this in ten days (after doing the same with TSR – doing it in that order gave a really neat perspective on some events in Echo). Amazing work.
I have a question, and hopefully I can phrase it in a way that makes sense. I get how choices in the game affect the outcome and how there isn’t one canonical path.
Is that true backwards in time as well? Are the events before 2015 (the story’s present) fixed, or do those also depend on the path taken? For example, are the revelations in TJ’s path about what happened to Sydney true across all the paths?
I just got a crash and an error while on Flynn's path. When Chase, Carl, and Daxton travel to follow Flynn on the highway, I came across this error message.
wow i really wanted carl and chase to be happy together, i know this isnt the typical vn follow a guy get his heart but it still hurt? like the imposibility of it all, like a bitterness taste and feel like, should i kept it on with the fanart?, yes i should, do i regret it?, a little, nobody can take this hellish experience from me so i guess there is something good about it
Okay, probably because I'm not from the US this surprised me, but the town of Echo is a real place.
It has a motel, a diner, Route 66 is nearby as is Echo Reservoir, and if you follow Dikker Hill Drive, it leads you to a large property that overlooks the town.
There are hiking trails that you take through the canyon, a NA reservation, and the University of Pueblo is one state over.
In fact, the more I look at this town and the surrounding area on Google Maps, the more I feel a little weird out by the similarities.
Is it just coincidence or did someone who work on this game actually come from Echo or the surrounding area?
Carl's Path was weird AF. I was exhausted by the end of it...
I was hoping Leo's Path would be you know the Easy going one...(Boy was i wrong...) The Sad part about it was that all most all of the bad things that happened could have been avoided if the cast didn't just run off solo at the worst / Creepiest times. Also chase should have Spoken to Leo and when he felt like he was going off rails he should have pulled him back on track. I was literally on a emotional rollercoaster reading this and tweeting my thoughts @K9Point5 some on them were funny. Also the Demon Is literally what happens when mindflayer from Stranger things and the creepy human thing from the E Munch painting have a baby.
i am not one to make reviews on any VN especially one that shaped the medium of story telling such as VNs but to any of my fellow bright eyed fellows looking for a vn and look at the comment section to see if its good let me save you time
yes its good 11/10
yes there NSFW
and yes it IS that dark and WILL mess with you in a good way
i was like you once and then i read echo...is all i am gonna say on that
this VN inspired me to make my own and continue being a write(and i am lazy) with nothing else to say go read it
Hoo-boy. This was such an emotional roller-coaster for me. I (like an idiot) ignored the warnings and am now suffering because of it - not the game's fault though!
This VN is so beautiful and complicated and damn interesting. Every time some major lore would drop it would send shivers down my spine (The overarching Flynn lore, anybody?) and I loved it.
Personally, TJ was my favorite character-wise, but goddamn I loved playing Leo's route. It personally helped me connect so many dots from the other routes and it felt so damn satisfying.
I played TJ's route first (a great introduction, which left me sobbing by the end), then Flynn's, Leo's, and - finally, Jenna's; which seemed to piece together a LOT of loose threads. Once you actually play through everything, the game starts to make more sense, and, I must say, wow.
I love the story so damn much, even if it is a bit confusing
Damn, now I'm so attached to these characters - moreso than any other game I've ever played. They just... feel so real to me, feel like actual people instead of just some boring characters. This VN has some of the best character work I've seen in a long, long time.
Let me just say this again: I loved this VN so much it hurts. Personally, this became my favorite game ever, and that really says something (I'm quite picky). This was a fantastic experience and I'm looking forward to replaying it with a new understanding of what's happening.
Yeah, I got that end and it was just Mortifying I just cant imagine your FEET getting cut off Then your crazy obsessed (Ex?)BF keeping you there just so you stay with him
I think the best ending overall is Jenna's good route since everyone gets out alive and some of the group's issues are sorted out but the price of that is the big mysteries not being resolved.
Jenna, Leo and Carl have more than one ending while TJ and Flynn's routes can only end one way.
I need your help on the Carl ending So, I got the ending where House goes up in flames, And carl seems soulless to Chase Is that the bad version of the end or
That ending was one of the first good ones I've got (along with Leo's break up one), considering TJ's path was my first route. All the others were just downhill. I'm stunned.
I finished almost all the routes... but I left Carl's route aside because I thought it wouldn't make much difference in the story, maybe I should play it? my sequence was: Leo, Jenna, TJ and Flynn
In my opinion, Carl's route is either a hit or miss. Without going into spoilers, it's drastically different from the other routes. So you're right, it doesn't make much difference in the story, and that can be good or bad depending on preferences and expectations. Personally, I enjoyed it initially (being the first route I played), but after replaying the entire game, it's not as good as I remember.
But don't let the opinion of this stranger deter you from enjoying more of Echo, it's ultimately up to you!
Great visual novel, it made me question what am I doing with my life. This novel left me feeling depressed, empty, useless. It has also made me wish I had friends growing up, it was pretty difficult for me to make friends. And I think that is why Carl route hit me the hardest. Sure he had friends but when he was starting to talk about his anxiety, when he had panic attacks I understood how he felt. At the end of his route the good ending when he overcame that, when he felt better about himself when he gained confidence in himself I started crying so much wishing that was me. I wish I wasn’t so insecure about my body wish I could get over my social anxiety just like that, especially when he was talking about going back to school. I feel like failure i let my family down for not finishing school and I really couldn’t bring myself to go there. It was really tough, people making fun of my weight, recording me while I was falling asleep in class. Actually thinking I had friends but they were “friends” And just to find out a few days they stole some of my stuff from my backpack when I was away and started to give my stuff out to some of my classmates when I found out it was already too late it was the end of the day. I have tried/did hurt myself when it was just too much for me. I am trying to get better now but it is still hard for me i really do hope one day I can change like he did, I really hope I can look in the mirror and smile back at that person how is looking at me and love myself.
Find your people and stick with them. Look up local support groups, leftist groups, etc. You don't become confident on a whim, it's a cultivation that starts with changing your habits, changing your thinking, and changing your experience.
Absolutely fascinating! I think I've played it fully -- I started with Carl and ended with TJ. Very, very cool game and I keep wanting to dip back in and look for things I might have missed.
after reading leo route,i feel lost,i try to find something comfort my suffering.so i finish reading echo and echo65,everytime chase talks to leo only to make me suffer more.Above all, it is the best gvn i have ever read,thank for trauma.
First thing's first, this game is not meant for everyone. It's a horror visual novel. Truth be told I am not a fan of horror or scary media by any stretch. That being said, this is probably the greatest piece of media I have consumed in a very, very long time.
If we look past the horror aspect of the story: the writing, the artistic value of the narrative, the pacing (for the most part), the character development, and the visual art, are nothing short of masterpiece quality.
I really cannot understate the merit that Echo commands. If we include the horror, it seems to both toe the line of traditional horror tropes in storytelling but subvert them. Not only insomuch as the story includes the almost expected twists and turns in its plot, but also in the way that the story keeps the audience engaged in the individual feelings and lives of the characters. Needless to say, when the characters hurt, we hurt. The deep emotional impact that the story has on its readers is something of awe and a warning to those that aren't in the best mental state.
I was a late arrival to Echo in terms of the furry VN scene's obsession du jour. I first played Adastra in early 2020 during the horror of COVID lockdowns and have since become a devotee of the Echo Project. So I want to preface the following with the fact that I speak as an unabashedly biased and pro-Echo partisan source.
The downsides of the story is that it lulls from time to time. I remember having to will myself into continuing on with playing the story in the beginning scenes on Saturday. Another theme that was a major detractor for me was the Southwestern US setting. I speak with bias, since I live in the US Southwest and am not the biggest fan of the local culture, the "theme" of the landscape and thus any story that is based around such a place. But, to Echo's credit, it doesn't build itself off of the Southwestern cowboy aesthetic, which is what I initially feared when I started playing.
Another unfortunate aspect of the story was that some horror scenes seemed overly gratuitous and served little more than to remind the reader that Echo is still indeed a horror story. Now obviously this is expected with the genre, but some things I felt would better serve left out.
Besides that, there were still some minor typographical errors in the dialog, but nothing devastating to comprehension.
The soundtrack is absolutely phenomenal. This is something in which the Echo Project shines. We the audience get invested in the stories of Echo Project titles not only because of the stellar writing but the intuitive emotion-laden tracks and presentation of said music. The work truly does speak for itself.
All things considered, Echo is absolutely a must-play for anyone who consumes furry themed visual novels. The game's appeal not only extends to the queer-furry crowd, but even to the general visual novel-consuming public, queer and non-queer, furry and non-furry alike.
Just started playing and accidentally started TJs route first, I think I'm close to finishing it. However after reading some comments it seems like it's best to do his as one of the last ones. Should I paused that route and start another one instead?
I also played TJ's route first. I really don't believe it matters. If anything, I prefer putting his first since it gives you the "sweetest" story and gives you the smoothest introduction. It only gets rougher from there on out, and even considering TJ's route, that's quite the assessment.
I have to agree with this. TJ's route is the least mentally-jarring and is a great introduction, and it gets more and more confusing as you go down other routes.
Played this game ~2 year ago when I was in a really shitty state of mind which looking back I realise was not the greatest idea. I definately fucked myself up for a while as I used to spend hours playing through the different routes hoping there was a happy ending for the characters I'd grown attached to.
Eventually I spent a day systematically going through every choice in the game until I got all the dialogue just so I could squeeze as much content out of this game as possible. After that I just led in bed for a couple of hours even though it was the middle of the day because I didn't really see the point in doing anything because my fictional people were essentially gone which in hindsight is one of the lowest points in my life...
So yeah before you play just really think about if you're doing good right now. I get that there's a good chance you'll think you can "deal with it" like I did but as you can tell by the sad state I was in it really isn't worth it. Now that I am in a better state of mind I'm gonna play it again and hopefully have a much better experience (I do hope the feels hit hard still tho). Also props to the echo team for making a vn so emotional that it became my life for a while (but seriously if you're reading I actually love you guys so much for all the work you put into your vns).
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[Kinda Spoiler Warning] Def recommend playing the game.
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So, I had put off playing Echo for the longest, as when I originally planned to play I was not in the right headspace and it definitely touched on subjects I was sensitive about. I type this a few hours after finishing Leo's route, and I have got to say this is one of the most lore driven stories I have ever read for furry media. The atmosphere of the town is captured perfectly by the solum and nostalgic tracks that play during the car, and relaxed scenes. The world building is also beautiful, as it doesn't flood the reader with information about Echo(The Town) the moment they play, rather it slowly reveals itself through character dialogue and internal monologues. The game encourages you to play all the routes in order to reveal the entire story and help explain as to why everyone is at each other's throats. The game also does a wonderful job at tying itself to Route 64, The Smoke Room which is the Prequel to Echo, and Arches, which takes place 5 years after the events of Echo. The characters, while falling a little into archetypes, mesh perfectly with each other in the disharmony seen throughout the game. Echo does have nsfw themes and scenes, but it isn't reliant on those to get you hooked.
Absolutely phenomenal game, it inspires me for my own projects and encourages me to pursue them by showing just how much of an impact it can have on people. I highly recommend playing this game, the lore alone is enough to keep you, but also gives some healthy nsfw service for anyone looking for that as well. I look forward to playing TSR and Arches(when it gets a bit further ahead) and I hope that by playing them, I will more clearly understand my own goals in the stories that I wish to tell.
Wow. Normally I wait a couple of days after experiencing either a movie or a game so as I can gather my thoughts and collate all the positives and negatives but, in this case, I don't really want to wait. I'll leave it to better writers to sum up this game because I don't think I could do it justice. Just want to say thank you to all who worked on this. I'm in fricking bits and I've only completed one storyline so far aha. I was not expecting to be put on the kind of fairground ride Echo let me enjoy/ endure. Even just hearing the opening notes on the main menu hits like a train.
Edit: Immediately after posting, I realize the only other game that did me like this was Life is Strange. Whenever one of *those* decisions came up, I would just slide the keyboard away and stare at the screen for five agonizing minutes lol.
Last Edit: I finished playing through all the characters. Even though my heart weighed heavy every time I started the game up and heard those opening musical notes, I came back every evening. Again I’ll say, thank you to the developers and the writers of this game. I’ve not felt an emotional connection with a game like this since,… I don’t even know. I wanted all of these broken, brilliant people to live and live their best lives. Thank you thank you thank you.
What a ride! This took me a while to finish, but it was worth the ride. My mind still boggles at how amazing this Visual Novel was when it comes to revealing the mystery of the town of Echo and how every path slowly builds up the complete picture. I really like how every character is unique but flawed, nearly pushing them close to the line of being unlikeable but somehow making them feel so human because of it. Everyone is fucked up in their own way and trying to find a way to live despite this fact.
Even after finishing the game, I notice that I’m still missing some pictures/days, which I assume is the result of me choosing a ‘different’ path, so I might replay some parts of the game to unlock them later. If anyone wants to know, my route was T.J. > Flynn > Leo > Carl > Jenna. (Pretty much choices from top to bottom when choosing which route to get.)
I plan on reading Arches since it is nearly done, but saving The Smoking Room for when it is complete.
[SPOILERS] ****
For the most part, I think Jenna and Flynn’s route explains most of what is happening in Echo, but even after reading all the paths, I am still a bit confused about some of the events.
When going through the game, I thought the dreams were premonitions about events that could or already happened. An example of these is when Chase dreams about the car with Leo and the gang sinking into the lake which plays out in both Leo and Flynn’s route, and when Chase dreams about Samuel getting run over by Sydney’s father. But there were other dreams that didn’t make an appearance, like when Flynn tells Chase to get on his knees to dig something out of the dirt, which I assume is either a reference to the treasure hunt, the body of Samuel, or even the body of Sydney’s father.
Why did Chase see Carl in the abandoned school when taking pictures for his project on Flynn’s route? I thought this suggests the idea that Carl has taken part in setting up Syndey’s treasure hunt, but this wasn’t implied in the other routes other than T.J. and Flynn’s.
Were there other people possessing Chase other than Samuel? There are some comments which make sense for Samuel to make, like the ones in Leo and Jenna’s route, but there are others that seem a bit weird. Having the voice taught Chase and making the choices for him. It makes me think that there are also other things giving input to Chase, possibly people who were possessed or even the Hum itself.
Speaking of possession, how does it work? It would seem that killing the person who was possessed gets them to become possessed themselves, yet, in Flynn’s route Flynn didn’t kill Chase. Maybe the way to get possessed is to do something regretful to them or even have the person who was getting possessed face their fear to become unpossessed.
Was Carl also possessed? When taking the acid trip with Jermeny, having him hear the voices ridicule Carl was weird. Is his great great great whatever possessing him at that moment, or was it the Hums that was talking to him since he also sees Chase next to him?
When going through one of the extra clips with Flynn, I find it strange that we are really not spectating anyone from their perspective. We see Chase, Carl, T.J., Leo, and Jenna's perspectives in the extra clips but not Flynn's. It was like we were watching the events happening from the sideline, which was weird.
Strangely, the monster is simultaneously helping and putting the gang in danger, which I find odd. They go from helping the gang escape from Brian to kicking them into the lake, nearly drowning them. It is as if the monster is playing with them, which seems a bit mean even coming from Flynn or they were just following fate.
I don’t remember much about it, but I recall there was something in Leo’s route that was strange. It was as if it was directing the focus not on Chase, but on us the reader. Why did this happen? How did the ‘thing’ addresses a person other than Chase at that moment?
Secrets seem to be an important part of the hysteria since killing Flynn in T.J.’s route seems to stop it, even if it was a little while. I wonder if this holds any meaning with Jenna’s and Carl’s ancestors and hope it gets explained in The Smoking Room.
I always thought that the events in Echo happen in a time loop, forcing the people within it to relive the same events over and over again. Like they are going in circles, forced to continue this game until the Hum is done with them. But I don’t think this is the case since there is a sequel VN which takes place five years after the events of Echo, but strangely it only shows clips of it when Flynn is dead. This leads me to think that the events that happen in Arches only occur in either T.J. or Flynn’s route.
Most of this might be me misremembering things since it did take me a while to finish reading this, so I might reread it later.
When will you release your next update on this visual novel?
Echo is complete. There are no planned updates at the moment for it.
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This experience, is one of those where when your done, you just kinda go, "what now?". I played this whilst high so maybe I thought a lot more on it, but it kinda changed how I look at life. 10/10, I definitely would recommend, maybe without the weed haha.
The Flynn ending that I played was very interesting, learning that the monster only just recently trying to kill the troop was "Flynn" was a unique experience that definitely cannot be replicated. In fact this whole story is an experience that cannot be replicated or experienced again through something else. It was most definitely because I was high whilst playing but it did change me. And it was for the better, so I thank thee Echo project, this is certainly something I will remember for the rest of my life. If I could suggest, I think this kind of story (I don't know the specific name but I'll just explain it as dark and heavy) would do good in a noir fashion. Definitely not this story directly, but maybe something akin to it, but whatever the next project may be I look forward to it regardless!
You should probably spoiler-tag this.
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is this vn done or is there more to add
Pretty sure the VN is done, but they might do another polish this year.
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spoiler time.
In leo's good end, Chase and the Voice in his head(I cant remember the name) say "Fuck you..." at the same time, Verbally, but nobody hears.
Then it goes like this.(Assume if something isnt bold, it is chase.)
"We say the words under my breath, but there's more rage behind them than anything I've ever said in my life.
And they're meant for Echo.
Fuck you for killing Janice."
"Fuck you for hurting William."
"Fuck you for killing Duke."
"Fuck you for hurting Cliff."
"Fuck you for what's buried in the mines."
"Fuck you for hurting Nik."
"Fuck you for twisting my friends into something they're not."
"Fuck you for hurting Cynthia and Murdoch."
"And fuck you for ruining my life."
I don't know if you saw Leo's other ending, this one aint the bad one
Meant the good end, thanks for pointing that out.
The song "505" reminds me of Echo and the whole mess of Chase and Leo's relationship. the main reason is the whole reason the song is called 505. "I'm going back to 505, if it's a 7 hour flight, or a 45 minute drive." totally fitting with the hate from (most of) the main cast for Echo.
When will you pay the next update for this VN here on itch.io?
I rarely read fiction, but plowed through every word of this in ten days (after doing the same with TSR – doing it in that order gave a really neat perspective on some events in Echo). Amazing work.
I have a question, and hopefully I can phrase it in a way that makes sense. I get how choices in the game affect the outcome and how there isn’t one canonical path.
Is that true backwards in time as well? Are the events before 2015 (the story’s present) fixed, or do those also depend on the path taken? For example, are the revelations in TJ’s path about what happened to Sydney true across all the paths?
It seems to work now! Not sure what happened, tho.
Other people: *freaking out, take their breaks, feel sad after playing*
Me: holy shield, that wasn't good ending. Meh, let's try again.
I love how intricate plot is and how much stories there are for player. I just finished Echo, but i'm already excited to play related games.
someone should turn this into a movie
I don't think you understand that I'd be so hyped waiting for an Echo movie, I would develop high blood pressure.
wow i really wanted carl and chase to be happy together, i know this isnt the typical vn follow a guy get his heart but it still hurt? like the imposibility of it all, like a bitterness taste and feel like, should i kept it on with the fanart?, yes i should, do i regret it?, a little, nobody can take this hellish experience from me so i guess there is something good about it
Okay, probably because I'm not from the US this surprised me, but the town of Echo is a real place.
It has a motel, a diner, Route 66 is nearby as is Echo Reservoir, and if you follow Dikker Hill Drive, it leads you to a large property that overlooks the town.
There are hiking trails that you take through the canyon, a NA reservation, and the University of Pueblo is one state over.
In fact, the more I look at this town and the surrounding area on Google Maps, the more I feel a little weird out by the similarities.
Is it just coincidence or did someone who work on this game actually come from Echo or the surrounding area?
Sadly there aren't any hot animal men here
cool game!!
The VN might be free, but the therapist isn't.
I dunno man, you much just have to go to echo to get a theripist for free..
Just
See some wild stuff
Like
The demons
Mine's court ordered so it is
should we be concerned?
wh
what is the carl path
What the hell?
Edit: currently playing through Leos' path
Learnt about doppelgangers
Now i know what happened...(I think Im pretty sure)
Edit2:NEVERFUCKINMIND
OH GOD THAT IS TERRIFYING
WHAT THE HELL
Edit3:THE ANIMATED DEMON WILL HAUNT MY NIGHTMARES
MY GOD YEAH
I got to that scene in the middle of the night and screeched so loud. It was fucking terrifying
Carl's Path was weird AF. I was exhausted by the end of it...
I was hoping Leo's Path would be you know the Easy going one...(Boy was i wrong...) The Sad part about it was that all most all of the bad things that happened could have been avoided if the cast didn't just run off solo at the worst / Creepiest times. Also chase should have Spoken to Leo and when he felt like he was going off rails he should have pulled him back on track. I was literally on a emotional rollercoaster reading this and tweeting my thoughts @K9Point5 some on them were funny. Also the Demon Is literally what happens when mindflayer from Stranger things and the creepy human thing from the E Munch painting have a baby.
i am not one to make reviews on any VN especially one that shaped the medium of story telling such as VNs but to any of my fellow bright eyed fellows looking for a vn and look at the comment section to see if its good let me save you time
yes its good 11/10
yes there NSFW
and yes it IS that dark and WILL mess with you in a good way
i was like you once and then i read echo...is all i am gonna say on that
this VN inspired me to make my own and continue being a write(and i am lazy) with nothing else to say go read it
its about time i replay echo now
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Hoo-boy. This was such an emotional roller-coaster for me. I (like an idiot) ignored the warnings and am now suffering because of it - not the game's fault though!
This VN is so beautiful and complicated and damn interesting. Every time some major lore would drop it would send shivers down my spine (The overarching Flynn lore, anybody?) and I loved it.
Personally, TJ was my favorite character-wise, but goddamn I loved playing Leo's route. It personally helped me connect so many dots from the other routes and it felt so damn satisfying.
I played TJ's route first (a great introduction, which left me sobbing by the end), then Flynn's, Leo's, and - finally, Jenna's; which seemed to piece together a LOT of loose threads. Once you actually play through everything, the game starts to make more sense, and, I must say, wow.
I love the story so damn much, even if it is a bit confusing
Damn, now I'm so attached to these characters - moreso than any other game I've ever played. They just... feel so real to me, feel like actual people instead of just some boring characters. This VN has some of the best character work I've seen in a long, long time.
Let me just say this again: I loved this VN so much it hurts. Personally, this became my favorite game ever, and that really says something (I'm quite picky). This was a fantastic experience and I'm looking forward to replaying it with a new understanding of what's happening.
does anyone else get a "could not execute" when trying to start up the game? i just wanna play this
Jump on their discord and ask there, there's an active community there and that's where you're most likely to find an answer quickly.
(Also include which platform you're playing on)
thanks for this experience
Quick question,
Is there a good ending when it comes to any of the routes, I got to the end of 1 of them and had to take a few days off.
Yeah. The other ending for that route is kinda fucked ngl, but letting go still hurts a lot.
Yeah, I got that end and it was
just
Mortifying
I just cant imagine your FEET getting cut off
Then your crazy obsessed (Ex?)BF keeping you there just so you stay with him
The thought terrifies me.
For real. Being forced to stay with Leo in such a circumstance... IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HYSTERIA
That would be so scary
That ending did me a legit jaw-drop
*spoiler*
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Hey so is like letting go of Leo like the only good ending in his route? bsides the bad ending ofc the train where ya get ur legs gordon ramseyed
Thanks for the info :0 also you did an awesome job understanding the morale!!and sharing it ofc thanks again
I think the best ending overall is Jenna's good route since everyone gets out alive and some of the group's issues are sorted out but the price of that is the big mysteries not being resolved.
Jenna, Leo and Carl have more than one ending while TJ and Flynn's routes can only end one way.
Wait
I need your help on the Carl ending
So, I got the ending where House goes up in flames, And carl seems soulless to Chase
Is that the bad version of the end or
Bad end, to get the better end you need Carl stay himself instead of acting like someone he isn't.
Also; How do i get the bad jenna ending?
Basically encourage her jaded personality, nothing gets better, people are jerks that sort of thing.
That ending was one of the first good ones I've got (along with Leo's break up one), considering TJ's path was my first route. All the others were just downhill. I'm stunned.
Every time I open the app, it gives me an error...
"I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
After initialization, but before game start.
Exception: CoreAudio error (OpenAComponent): -50"
Im using a Mac, if that helps any. I used to be able to play, but I'm not sure what happened. Great game by the way! :)
cmon man my guy flynn didn't deserve that
No he didn't
I started with his route and god DAMN was I devastated
I fell thath too, friend
I finished almost all the routes... but I left Carl's route aside because I thought it wouldn't make much difference in the story, maybe I should play it? my sequence was: Leo, Jenna, TJ and Flynn
In my opinion, Carl's route is either a hit or miss. Without going into spoilers, it's drastically different from the other routes. So you're right, it doesn't make much difference in the story, and that can be good or bad depending on preferences and expectations. Personally, I enjoyed it initially (being the first route I played), but after replaying the entire game, it's not as good as I remember.
But don't let the opinion of this stranger deter you from enjoying more of Echo, it's ultimately up to you!
she was not lying that was CW: emotionally intense
this Is child Chase
The sprites are used in Flynn's rote and I think that Jenna's route too.
Except for Chase's sprite. His was not used in any routes.
What animal was Sydney?
Otter, I'm pretty sure.
AAAGH THAT CONFIRMS MY SUSPICIONSSSS
what suspicions?
I had a feeling he was an otter because of something that happened in Arches,
You mean the car crash scene?
Spoilers!!! I guess?
Great visual novel, it made me question what am I doing with my life. This novel left me feeling depressed, empty, useless. It has also made me wish I had friends growing up, it was pretty difficult for me to make friends. And I think that is why Carl route hit me the hardest. Sure he had friends but when he was starting to talk about his anxiety, when he had panic attacks I understood how he felt. At the end of his route the good ending when he overcame that, when he felt better about himself when he gained confidence in himself I started crying so much wishing that was me. I wish I wasn’t so insecure about my body wish I could get over my social anxiety just like that, especially when he was talking about going back to school. I feel like failure i let my family down for not finishing school and I really couldn’t bring myself to go there. It was really tough, people making fun of my weight, recording me while I was falling asleep in class. Actually thinking I had friends but they were “friends” And just to find out a few days they stole some of my stuff from my backpack when I was away and started to give my stuff out to some of my classmates when I found out it was already too late it was the end of the day. I have tried/did hurt myself when it was just too much for me. I am trying to get better now but it is still hard for me i really do hope one day I can change like he did, I really hope I can look in the mirror and smile back at that person how is looking at me and love myself.
Also thanks for the crazy experience
Find your people and stick with them. Look up local support groups, leftist groups, etc. You don't become confident on a whim, it's a cultivation that starts with changing your habits, changing your thinking, and changing your experience.
I never liked Flynn. He's the most misunderstood character, yet he's a jackass.
Absolutely fascinating! I think I've played it fully -- I started with Carl and ended with TJ. Very, very cool game and I keep wanting to dip back in and look for things I might have missed.
after reading leo route,i feel lost,i try to find something comfort my suffering.so i finish reading echo and echo65,everytime chase talks to leo only to make me suffer more.Above all, it is the best gvn i have ever read,thank for trauma.
Where shall I begin?
First thing's first, this game is not meant for everyone. It's a horror visual novel. Truth be told I am not a fan of horror or scary media by any stretch. That being said, this is probably the greatest piece of media I have consumed in a very, very long time.
If we look past the horror aspect of the story: the writing, the artistic value of the narrative, the pacing (for the most part), the character development, and the visual art, are nothing short of masterpiece quality.
I really cannot understate the merit that Echo commands. If we include the horror, it seems to both toe the line of traditional horror tropes in storytelling but subvert them. Not only insomuch as the story includes the almost expected twists and turns in its plot, but also in the way that the story keeps the audience engaged in the individual feelings and lives of the characters. Needless to say, when the characters hurt, we hurt. The deep emotional impact that the story has on its readers is something of awe and a warning to those that aren't in the best mental state.
I was a late arrival to Echo in terms of the furry VN scene's obsession du jour. I first played Adastra in early 2020 during the horror of COVID lockdowns and have since become a devotee of the Echo Project. So I want to preface the following with the fact that I speak as an unabashedly biased and pro-Echo partisan source.
The downsides of the story is that it lulls from time to time. I remember having to will myself into continuing on with playing the story in the beginning scenes on Saturday. Another theme that was a major detractor for me was the Southwestern US setting. I speak with bias, since I live in the US Southwest and am not the biggest fan of the local culture, the "theme" of the landscape and thus any story that is based around such a place. But, to Echo's credit, it doesn't build itself off of the Southwestern cowboy aesthetic, which is what I initially feared when I started playing.
Another unfortunate aspect of the story was that some horror scenes seemed overly gratuitous and served little more than to remind the reader that Echo is still indeed a horror story. Now obviously this is expected with the genre, but some things I felt would better serve left out.
Besides that, there were still some minor typographical errors in the dialog, but nothing devastating to comprehension.
The soundtrack is absolutely phenomenal. This is something in which the Echo Project shines. We the audience get invested in the stories of Echo Project titles not only because of the stellar writing but the intuitive emotion-laden tracks and presentation of said music. The work truly does speak for itself.
All things considered, Echo is absolutely a must-play for anyone who consumes furry themed visual novels. The game's appeal not only extends to the queer-furry crowd, but even to the general visual novel-consuming public, queer and non-queer, furry and non-furry alike.
Just started playing and accidentally started TJs route first, I think I'm close to finishing it. However after reading some comments it seems like it's best to do his as one of the last ones. Should I paused that route and start another one instead?
I also played TJ's route first. I really don't believe it matters. If anything, I prefer putting his first since it gives you the "sweetest" story and gives you the smoothest introduction. It only gets rougher from there on out, and even considering TJ's route, that's quite the assessment.
I have to agree with this. TJ's route is the least mentally-jarring and is a great introduction, and it gets more and more confusing as you go down other routes.
Personally I did TJ > Flynn > Leo
Really? I did them in alphabetical order and TJ’s and wish I would have swapped his and Jenna’s.
Played this game ~2 year ago when I was in a really shitty state of mind which looking back I realise was not the greatest idea. I definately fucked myself up for a while as I used to spend hours playing through the different routes hoping there was a happy ending for the characters I'd grown attached to.
Eventually I spent a day systematically going through every choice in the game until I got all the dialogue just so I could squeeze as much content out of this game as possible. After that I just led in bed for a couple of hours even though it was the middle of the day because I didn't really see the point in doing anything because my fictional people were essentially gone which in hindsight is one of the lowest points in my life...
So yeah before you play just really think about if you're doing good right now. I get that there's a good chance you'll think you can "deal with it" like I did but as you can tell by the sad state I was in it really isn't worth it. Now that I am in a better state of mind I'm gonna play it again and hopefully have a much better experience (I do hope the feels hit hard still tho). Also props to the echo team for making a vn so emotional that it became my life for a while (but seriously if you're reading I actually love you guys so much for all the work you put into your vns).