It's never explicitly stated in the game but people pretty much agree it was TJ. Why? That's up to you to figure out since TJ's characterization makes you read in between the lines in order to understand him better.
1. The first is that the author is TJ. This theory posits that TJ feels guilt over what happened to Sydney and had been creating the notes and hiding them on his own. He is the one to know where all notes are located, examples of this being that it was mentioned that he can move silently through the old school house, and knew where the note was hidden in Sydney's old room. The main issue with the theory is that TJ is not the type to break and enter, commit crimes to hide these notes, and seems to not know what the notes are going to say at times.
2. The other theory is that Sydney is possessing TJ and influencing him to create and hide the notes. Either way TJ is physically hiding the notes, but his is pushed by Sydney to do so. This would also explain the antagonistic aspects of the notes regarding Chase, since TJ does like Chase and wouldn't likely be pointing out Chase killed Sydney, since he did so to protect TJ.
Neither theory explains everything, but most likely TJ was somehow involved.
Would there ever be a release of the sheet music or chords for the main songs? Would be awesome to be able to play them on the guitar or piano, either way loved the game to bits.
Argh... I made an account just to comment here. Why is there so few of you talking about Flynn??? I need some explanations and someone to talk of this with.
FLYNN SPOILERS
Did he really just die? Like really really dead? Why though?! I'm crying right now because I just can't accept it. Flynn's route is the first one I played and cleared. Yes, he seemed like a total asshole but starting his route and getting to know him at the beginning, I found out that he wouldn't really hurt his friends no matter how mad he is. He's such a lovable guy!!! And well... He is sooo hot too ya know. I liked the idea of him towering above me. But did we really just top him? I was shocked at that moment. But back to my rant... Why did we have to condemn him??? Why can't we just defend him and stay with him? I started his route because I fell in love with him. But then I'm forced to see some other guy named Carl the Ram take him? There's no option of staying in a relationship with him and it sucks. I can't stand seeing him with Carl and feeling his thoughts of wanting to protect Carl instead of me(Chase). And near the end... I still can't get over the feeling of helplessness over his situation. Apparently, I'm supposed to stay with Leo and let Flynn deal with his problems alone. I keep on hoping that Chase will appear at the Smoke Room and keep him company. To get through all this BS together and letting Flynn know he's not alone, I'm here for him. But no!!! Flynn dealt with all those sh!t by himself. Where the h3ll was Chase!!! At the mines, why was it Daxton and Carl there for him? Why not Chase? Why did we have to hate each other? Why can't we be there for each other? Why stay with Leo? Just WHY do we have to condemn him and lie to make him look like such an evil person. Why did we make him seem like a rapist, someone who will manipulate others for his own sake and satisfaction? I never wanted to do that! I didn't even think of such things coming out of my mouth so why?
Well, that's pretty much all I have to say. Is it finally over? No more updates to the story? Are we getting a happy ending for Flynn? Or is that really it? Somehow I'm thinking that we won't get it and that's just really sad.
Everything I've said doesn't mean I hated the story though! I loved it and I plan to finish all routes. Definitely a great game to pass the time and think about every night before going to sleep. That's all, bye!
Because the truth mustn't get out. Without spoiling other routes, I just finished Flynn's route as my last and I have my own theory as to why certain things happened, keeping things in the realms of solely this route. It definitely is the most confusing route without the proper prior knowledge (still is when you've played through everything lol), so I hope to be clear when I try for an explanation:
1. Why Chase condemned Flynn: You can see that there is this "voice" in Chase's head (by the different font), that feels like a completely different person. You will learn more about this the more you play. Keeping with the whole "the truth mustn't get out" theme, this voice/entity sees that TJ was about to tell the truth to everyone, hence, it takes over Chase and seizes an opportunity to distract everyone and shift their focus to Flynn as it condemns him. This is why Chase acted so out of character in that scene when he's been nothing but horny back to Flynn the past days, because it wasn't Chase.
2. Why Daxton & Carl were there: If you remember the detail there wasn't a gate around the real Smoke Room (which Flynn points out explicitly), This is him entering the mine, because the mine DID have a gate (more like rebar but whatever), and it was actually on fire even before the hysteria. Daxton and Carl follows Flynn into the mine to try to get him out, but simultaneously Flynn is having this creepy conversation with Sydney (again, getting really into it). Seeing the worsening condition of the heat inside, and then Flynn suddenly screaming at them both, they abandon him in fear of their own lives.
My ending explanation: Flynn wanted the truth, then the entity let him see the literal entire truth, every single killing/murder in Echo in brief flashes, from the fox hanging, to Brian's van, and finally Syd, and probably many more that they "all blur together". Yet, he doesn't even see who killed Sydney as his eyes pop. The truth mustn't get out, after all, as the entity toys with him and wins. In the final scene, in Jenna's closet, young Jenna asks if he is real. Flynn, having spent the entire route finding the truth and finally seeing it, denies both its existence, and even himself, as he had destroyed himself in his search for the truth, both physically and mentally, in pure disbelief and regret.
well, could someone tell me (under a spoiler mark im sure) how to get that sex scene? i got it the first time i played, but i cant seem to get it again
I can easily say that Echo is one of the best, if not the best furry visual novel It's not a typical dating simulator or "choose this route and you'll become lovers with this character, happy ending" It destroys that typicality and tells traumatic stories with thrilling writing that leaves you with different emotions for a while when you finish the reading Every main character (even some of the minor characters) has their own unique story which will leave some impact on you The visuals (sprites, backgrounds, CGs, music etc) are also done great, they perfectly fit the story atmosphere and convey the characters' feelings/emotions to readers If you're looking for interesting visual novels to read, I'd definitely recommend Echo (and also the other novels from The Echo Project since they are equally as great as this one)
Echo a great experience play it. This is one of the few pieces of media I have experienced that made me cry. Echo did not do this with horror or heartbreak. Instead I was brought to tears by the realization that that I receive from the other media I mentioned above. The realization that the piece of media will end, that I will never be able to experience it again for a first time, and that every time I experience a visual novel I will be wishing that it will be as good as echo...
When I finished my first play through with Leo when I choose the option, "we can figure out something later" I was shocked what Leo did than I choose the other option and I'm not going to lie I enjoyed this game a lot. When I choose the option "It's Over" I was expecting Leo to do the same thing but at the end I just felt bad. Although all I can say is that I enjoyed this game a lot and it truly is one of my favorites now I haven't finished the other play troughs, but I will when I have the time!
When i try to download the game it says i cant download it on my phone i tried download a file manager and i tried downloading from there but it says there was a problem with the package
Wow, I just finished with my first playthrough, I did TJ's path, that revelation at the end... I was not expecting it. I highly recomend reading this, this was honestly a roller coaster.
I played because a friend recommended the game to me and I had pretty low expectations honestly. So to humor my friend I downloaded it, and my god this story was great. Honestly it was amazing. But jesus, that ending was seriously fucked up. Cant wait to reread on a different path now.
FREE IDEA FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS IT FOR A FIC OR FANGAME OR COMIC OR ANYTHING
i was gonna write it myself but... well i just dont feel like it
dating sim where jenna is the player character and the romancable characters are chase, leo, carl, tj, and flynn, very anime-dating sim-y, with a sort of 90's shoujo aesthetic and a lot of pink, and it's obviously surreal and tropey and a dream, that last point of course being something jenna figures out quickly because obviously, and from there some combination of comedy and horror takes place in each route
WARNING, SPOILERS: I’ve gots a question. I played through Leo’s route as the second route I played. But I’ve heard mixed stuff about it. When I finished it, Chase got onto the train just fine, and Leo stayed behind. Everyone was happy, and Chase and Kudzu ended up together. But from something I heard, there’s an ending where Leo pulls you off of the train and and you die. How do I get this ending to see it for myself?
Will somebody die within the game or on specific routes? if so please tell me also, will I get REALLY f-u-c-k-e-d up emotionally after/while playing this? if so please tell me so I can prepare myself
I think that depends on your mental stability and mindset. For me, though, so far I didn't get fucced in any bad level. I'm more frightened by the possible jump scares, eerie music, or when Chase is alone. I look at it with a more thrill-seeking view rather than mental exhaustion, like building case or putting logic to put two and two together. Hope this helps a bit and happy reading~
So, it's not really gonna mess with your head. There are some torture scenes that can go into detail, but if you're in a really low mental headspace or get triggered by abuse and such I don't recommend it.. But if that stuff doesnt bother you than this is a wonderful story.
so i have on phone and i updated it and now i have 2. one says echo 1.0 and the other says echo and they have different icons. so what is the difference between them and what one is newer?
i uhhh...man idek...found the smoke room a few months ago and quickly found this and arches too....played flynn's route and carl's route and dropped it for a while....last few weeks i played tj's, leo's, and now i just finished jenna's....honestly i feel empty....it feels like i just lost a whole family when the credits rolled. like my life is done and i dont have anything good anymore...its a great game but im so fucking sad its over....they all felt so real...like real people....like my friends or my enemies or my creepy voices in my head....i dont know what im gonna do now.....probably play route 65 and the new update for TSR....i cant shake the feeling that i'm never gonna recover from this....shit im being overdramatic its just a game...but jesus
Easily the best VN ive ever played its a mix of scary and sad and some happy moments its super good a great artstyle and everything all and all incredible.
vndb says ~31 hours (only off of 4 votes though), it took me 28 with a text speed that was bumped up a few notches from the default, but i've heard it take up to 40 depending on reading speed
What can I say the writing for this was really interesting & quickly drew me into the story. The way the characters interacted with each other was very well done. I found myself utterly stunned by the plot twists at the end. I also enjoyed the art style esp. for TJ.
TJ is my fav. character because I really relate to the struggles he goes through. I have been in several relationships where I ended up being physically & emotionally abused. Unfortunately one of them was a close relative who also tried to kill me a few times. Strangely instead of being depressed by the story I found it to be intriguing & somewhat therapeutic.
More people need to go about presenting abuse the way it is done in your plot with an intimate representation of the emotions & reasons behind the abusive behavior. I especially liked the parts where the stress of what happened in the past makes Chase go completely insane causing him to see strange versions of himself in the mirror & hearing a voice in his head urging him to do things. Overall I enjoyed this VN a lot & am looking forward to your other works as this is the 1st. one I have had the pleasure of experiencing.
Definitely agree about it being therapeutic. Echo handles the topic well enough from a lot of angles across the different routes to really help with processing abuse, or at least it did for me.
That's one way to put it, I'm still shock this has more quality and is willing to engage deeper in thought than any mainstream media would ever dare to go through
On the main menu, click on the sea (the top of the screen) to access the secret menu. Once there, click on the broken mirror on the bottom left of the screen. There, scroll down until you find Chase, and the short stories are there.
Claro, pero después de leer todo ambos necesitan madurar y siento que se hacen daño juntos. Una vez resueltas esas cosas quizás puedan volver a ser pajera, pero antes de eso? No.
Complicado decir, Chase tiene muchas caras, puede ser idiota, obsesivo, un cobarde total, alguien que siempre va a ayudar o que está dispuesto a hacer las cosas más difíciles por los suyos. Leo es muy complicado siendo obsesivo, agresivo, testarudo, un protector de los suyos y alguien en quien puedes confiar. Al final resolver todos sus problemas se vuelve muy difícil por qué estar juntos los va a alejar de todos los demás. Son una pareja muy bonita pero son más sanos estando separados. Cómo que juntos retroalimentan sus peores cualidades.
It appears trying to open backlog during phone displays messes the game up.
While I'm on I may as well ask. There isn't some final route to this is there? I know a harem route would be silly and a "supah happy end" probably doesn't suit this thing but... anything?
Closest to a Happy ending is Carl Good Ending and Jennas Good Ending, and yes a good ending is possible in echo even if the "bad endings" are more thematically fitting and better.
Well, I mean like one of those final endings where they solve everything. Like having the route characters come together (with their issues resolved) like one of those sentai shows against the villain.
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Is it revealed anywhere who's the author of Sydney's treasure hunt clues?
It's never explicitly stated in the game but people pretty much agree it was TJ.
Why? That's up to you to figure out since TJ's characterization makes you read in between the lines in order to understand him better.
Spoilers
There are two big theories that I've seen.
1. The first is that the author is TJ. This theory posits that TJ feels guilt over what happened to Sydney and had been creating the notes and hiding them on his own. He is the one to know where all notes are located, examples of this being that it was mentioned that he can move silently through the old school house, and knew where the note was hidden in Sydney's old room. The main issue with the theory is that TJ is not the type to break and enter, commit crimes to hide these notes, and seems to not know what the notes are going to say at times.
2. The other theory is that Sydney is possessing TJ and influencing him to create and hide the notes. Either way TJ is physically hiding the notes, but his is pushed by Sydney to do so. This would also explain the antagonistic aspects of the notes regarding Chase, since TJ does like Chase and wouldn't likely be pointing out Chase killed Sydney, since he did so to protect TJ.
Neither theory explains everything, but most likely TJ was somehow involved.
Could any1 elaborate on the lore part? I played thru all paths but it still do be confusing the hell out of me
What part of the lore is confusing you? Is it the history of Echo, what is going on with the group or something else?
Would there ever be a release of the sheet music or chords for the main songs? Would be awesome to be able to play them on the guitar or piano, either way loved the game to bits.
Argh... I made an account just to comment here. Why is there so few of you talking about Flynn??? I need some explanations and someone to talk of this with.
FLYNN SPOILERS
Did he really just die? Like really really dead? Why though?! I'm crying right now because I just can't accept it. Flynn's route is the first one I played and cleared. Yes, he seemed like a total asshole but starting his route and getting to know him at the beginning, I found out that he wouldn't really hurt his friends no matter how mad he is. He's such a lovable guy!!! And well... He is sooo hot too ya know. I liked the idea of him towering above me. But did we really just top him? I was shocked at that moment. But back to my rant... Why did we have to condemn him??? Why can't we just defend him and stay with him? I started his route because I fell in love with him. But then I'm forced to see some other guy named Carl the Ram take him? There's no option of staying in a relationship with him and it sucks. I can't stand seeing him with Carl and feeling his thoughts of wanting to protect Carl instead of me(Chase). And near the end... I still can't get over the feeling of helplessness over his situation. Apparently, I'm supposed to stay with Leo and let Flynn deal with his problems alone. I keep on hoping that Chase will appear at the Smoke Room and keep him company. To get through all this BS together and letting Flynn know he's not alone, I'm here for him. But no!!! Flynn dealt with all those sh!t by himself. Where the h3ll was Chase!!! At the mines, why was it Daxton and Carl there for him? Why not Chase? Why did we have to hate each other? Why can't we be there for each other? Why stay with Leo? Just WHY do we have to condemn him and lie to make him look like such an evil person. Why did we make him seem like a rapist, someone who will manipulate others for his own sake and satisfaction? I never wanted to do that! I didn't even think of such things coming out of my mouth so why?
Well, that's pretty much all I have to say. Is it finally over? No more updates to the story? Are we getting a happy ending for Flynn? Or is that really it? Somehow I'm thinking that we won't get it and that's just really sad.
Everything I've said doesn't mean I hated the story though! I loved it and I plan to finish all routes. Definitely a great game to pass the time and think about every night before going to sleep. That's all, bye!
I think his death is the price for learning the truth (like maybe the evil spirit decided to show him the truth, but only for his soul in return)
Because the truth mustn't get out. Without spoiling other routes, I just finished Flynn's route as my last and I have my own theory as to why certain things happened, keeping things in the realms of solely this route. It definitely is the most confusing route without the proper prior knowledge (still is when you've played through everything lol), so I hope to be clear when I try for an explanation:
1. Why Chase condemned Flynn: You can see that there is this "voice" in Chase's head (by the different font), that feels like a completely different person. You will learn more about this the more you play. Keeping with the whole "the truth mustn't get out" theme, this voice/entity sees that TJ was about to tell the truth to everyone, hence, it takes over Chase and seizes an opportunity to distract everyone and shift their focus to Flynn as it condemns him. This is why Chase acted so out of character in that scene when he's been nothing but horny back to Flynn the past days, because it wasn't Chase.
2. Why Daxton & Carl were there: If you remember the detail there wasn't a gate around the real Smoke Room (which Flynn points out explicitly), This is him entering the mine, because the mine DID have a gate (more like rebar but whatever), and it was actually on fire even before the hysteria. Daxton and Carl follows Flynn into the mine to try to get him out, but simultaneously Flynn is having this creepy conversation with Sydney (again, getting really into it). Seeing the worsening condition of the heat inside, and then Flynn suddenly screaming at them both, they abandon him in fear of their own lives.
My ending explanation: Flynn wanted the truth, then the entity let him see the literal entire truth, every single killing/murder in Echo in brief flashes, from the fox hanging, to Brian's van, and finally Syd, and probably many more that they "all blur together". Yet, he doesn't even see who killed Sydney as his eyes pop. The truth mustn't get out, after all, as the entity toys with him and wins. In the final scene, in Jenna's closet, young Jenna asks if he is real. Flynn, having spent the entire route finding the truth and finally seeing it, denies both its existence, and even himself, as he had destroyed himself in his search for the truth, both physically and mentally, in pure disbelief and regret.
Flynn route ending is... weird, confusing and sad...
I want to rescue Flynn from... that!
Although I also always feel bad for Leo...
This pretty much sums up the game. (before playing and after playing)
did they take out the sex scene in jenna's route? the one during watching anime? or am i imagining that happened? i cant seem to get it again
I'm... almost sure that there was not such a scene :/
are you sure? the wiki seems to agree with my memory...
There are multiple ways for the route to play out depending on the choices you make
well, could someone tell me (under a spoiler mark im sure) how to get that sex scene? i got it the first time i played, but i cant seem to get it again
SPOILER
Basically you just need to choose bi at the beginning of the game, it basically a choice if you can romance Jenna or not basically~
I can easily say that Echo is one of the best, if not the best furry visual novel
It's not a typical dating simulator or "choose this route and you'll become lovers with this character, happy ending"
It destroys that typicality and tells traumatic stories with thrilling writing that leaves you with different emotions for a while when you finish the reading
Every main character (even some of the minor characters) has their own unique story which will leave some impact on you
The visuals (sprites, backgrounds, CGs, music etc) are also done great, they perfectly fit the story atmosphere and convey the characters' feelings/emotions to readers
If you're looking for interesting visual novels to read, I'd definitely recommend Echo (and also the other novels from The Echo Project since they are equally as great as this one)
Is there the Anniversary Version for Android?
Echo a great experience play it. This is one of the few pieces of media I have experienced that made me cry. Echo did not do this with horror or heartbreak. Instead I was brought to tears by the realization that that I receive from the other media I mentioned above. The realization that the piece of media will end, that I will never be able to experience it again for a first time, and that every time I experience a visual novel I will be wishing that it will be as good as echo...
P.s. TJ ❤️
TJ is the best, I wish I knew what happened with him and Chase after his path.
Yeah same
When I finished my first play through with Leo when I choose the option, "we can figure out something later" I was shocked what Leo did than I choose the other option and I'm not going to lie I enjoyed this game a lot. When I choose the option "It's Over" I was expecting Leo to do the same thing but at the end I just felt bad. Although all I can say is that I enjoyed this game a lot and it truly is one of my favorites now I haven't finished the other play troughs, but I will when I have the time!
What's the name of the music that sounds after you choose TJ's route? In the dream where TJ is drinking and Chase's ankle and wrist are chained...
When i try to download the game it says i cant download it on my phone i tried download a file manager and i tried downloading from there but it says there was a problem with the package
I am using android version 6
Wow, I just finished with my first playthrough, I did TJ's path, that revelation at the end... I was not expecting it. I highly recomend reading this, this was honestly a roller coaster.
I played because a friend recommended the game to me and I had pretty low expectations honestly. So to humor my friend I downloaded it, and my god this story was great. Honestly it was amazing. But jesus, that ending was seriously fucked up. Cant wait to reread on a different path now.
FREE IDEA FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS IT FOR A FIC OR FANGAME OR COMIC OR ANYTHING
i was gonna write it myself but... well i just dont feel like it
dating sim where jenna is the player character and the romancable characters are chase, leo, carl, tj, and flynn, very anime-dating sim-y, with a sort of 90's shoujo aesthetic and a lot of pink, and it's obviously surreal and tropey and a dream, that last point of course being something jenna figures out quickly because obviously, and from there some combination of comedy and horror takes place in each route
Like Morenatsu? I love that game
arent half of them gay
well yes, obviously a big thing that tips jenna off to something being Wrong here
question i have, if yall @ the echo project mind fan games based in echo? with credit and no profit obv but it's been on my mind for a lil bit.
Fan games are fine! Just make sure to link to our itch.io / Patreon. - McSkinny
WARNING, SPOILERS: I’ve gots a question. I played through Leo’s route as the second route I played. But I’ve heard mixed stuff about it. When I finished it, Chase got onto the train just fine, and Leo stayed behind. Everyone was happy, and Chase and Kudzu ended up together. But from something I heard, there’s an ending where Leo pulls you off of the train and and you die. How do I get this ending to see it for myself?
you have to tell leo that "we'll work something out"
the options were work something out or tell him it’s over, right? Because I think I told him it’s over.
yep, that should be it. telling him "its over" gets you the good ending
Glad I was able to avoid disaster in my first try. Went back and got the bad ending, and god is it horrible.
Will somebody die within the game or on specific routes? if so please tell me
also, will I get REALLY f-u-c-k-e-d up emotionally after/while playing this? if so please tell me so I can prepare myself
I think that depends on your mental stability and mindset. For me, though, so far I didn't get fucced in any bad level. I'm more frightened by the possible jump scares, eerie music, or when Chase is alone. I look at it with a more thrill-seeking view rather than mental exhaustion, like building case or putting logic to put two and two together. Hope this helps a bit and happy reading~
So, it's not really gonna mess with your head. There are some torture scenes that can go into detail, but if you're in a really low mental headspace or get triggered by abuse and such I don't recommend it.. But if that stuff doesnt bother you than this is a wonderful story.
well written, well made, emotionally devestating. def listen to the mental health warning or take breaks between sessions. 10/10 imo
update, after finishing 3 routes, tj's, leo's and jenna's. this game is genuinely amazing but god it hurts. well written but at what cost 😭
So they all die or either go crazy
just got done playing this visual novel and I must say I freaking loveit
so i have on phone and i updated it and now i have 2. one says echo 1.0 and the other says echo and they have different icons. so what is the difference between them and what one is newer?
i uhhh...man idek...found the smoke room a few months ago and quickly found this and arches too....played flynn's route and carl's route and dropped it for a while....last few weeks i played tj's, leo's, and now i just finished jenna's....honestly i feel empty....it feels like i just lost a whole family when the credits rolled. like my life is done and i dont have anything good anymore...its a great game but im so fucking sad its over....they all felt so real...like real people....like my friends or my enemies or my creepy voices in my head....i dont know what im gonna do now.....probably play route 65 and the new update for TSR....i cant shake the feeling that i'm never gonna recover from this....shit im being overdramatic its just a game...but jesus
thats the echo experience for ya
Also someone have a deep conversation with me about echo, we can do it here or discord, discord is easier. Saber#2750
If you're still interested, I'm in. kremill#4628 (also Carl is one of my favourites)
Sent you FR, Angemonium#1096
Favorite characters?? Mine are Kudzu and Flynn for obvious reasons.
What's the name of the credits song I forgot
Each Ending has its own song.
Carl - Echo by Bugboy
Leo - Blurry by Bugboy
TJ - When Stars Align by Abyuse
Flynn - When your arms were around me (Not sure who the artist is and if it was v1 or v2)
Jenna - Book of Job by Hop Skip and the Chew Toys
Thanks also spoiler:
Is there a way to still stay with Leo without losing your legs and the game ending like is there more Dialog or is that just it
SPOILER:
No. The good ending for Leo is him finally letting go of the past and moving on with his life instead of obsessing over you.
Easily the best VN ive ever played its a mix of scary and sad and some happy moments its super good a great artstyle and everything all and all incredible.
Ok so I got a question and the answer should be spoilers so please read with caution, I will try to redact it with as little spoiler I can.
During a certain remembrance, a certain character gets hit by a Van.
Could someone please remind me which name does this character say?
spoiler
You had in mind a Jack? Jack from TSR?
Spoiler
He did said Jack right? That's really sad, specially because he wasn't loved back.
iirc it's V2 for Flynn's ending. The difference is that V2 has a xylophone whereas V1 has a synth.
How long to beat this?
took me an entire week to get all of the endings, used 79/80 saves, dedicated my time to it too
something I find interesting is you can go past 80 on the save list.
vndb says ~31 hours (only off of 4 votes though), it took me 28 with a text speed that was bumped up a few notches from the default, but i've heard it take up to 40 depending on reading speed
did they ever fix that thing in Carl's route where it doesn't skip the already seem text between the good and bad routes ?
How many ending is exactly in this game I want to know
There are 8 main endings
3 (quote) "good" endings
5 psychologicaly troubling endings
All 5 routs have a bad ending
only 3 routes have (quote) "good" endings
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Only Carl, Leo and Jenna's route have (quote) "good" endings
If it's ok can u tell me what happen at every ending
I don't mind spoiler
Spoiler:
The good ending for Leo I think is when you say its over and you get with kudzu and come back 2 years later and say hi to leo
Is Leo from El Salvador or Honduras?
Edit: OMG HES FROM EL SALVADOR TOO
10/10 im traumatized :)
Great VN. But I have a question. Was Julian based off of Gordon Freeman from Half-Life? I see very little differences in both...
What can I say the writing for this was really interesting & quickly drew me into the story. The way the characters interacted with each other was very well done. I found myself utterly stunned by the plot twists at the end. I also enjoyed the art style esp. for TJ.
TJ is my fav. character because I really relate to the struggles he goes through. I have been in several relationships where I ended up being physically & emotionally abused. Unfortunately one of them was a close relative who also tried to kill me a few times. Strangely instead of being depressed by the story I found it to be intriguing & somewhat therapeutic.
More people need to go about presenting abuse the way it is done in your plot with an intimate representation of the emotions & reasons behind the abusive behavior. I especially liked the parts where the stress of what happened in the past makes Chase go completely insane causing him to see strange versions of himself in the mirror & hearing a voice in his head urging him to do things. Overall I enjoyed this VN a lot & am looking forward to your other works as this is the 1st. one I have had the pleasure of experiencing.
Definitely agree about it being therapeutic. Echo handles the topic well enough from a lot of angles across the different routes to really help with processing abuse, or at least it did for me.
I still don't know what compelled a bunch of furries to drop peak fiction on us like we deserved it somehow.
That's one way to put it, I'm still shock this has more quality and is willing to engage deeper in thought than any mainstream media would ever dare to go through
Waitt is there smut/ erotic scenes in echo? I'm asking since Normally there'd be a tag for that but there's none for smut so ....
None visually depicted, no
It's like the gore in Zero Escape. Not on camera but they stuff a few text boxes with it.
How do I access the short stories?
On the main menu, click on the sea (the top of the screen) to access the secret menu. Once there, click on the broken mirror on the bottom left of the screen. There, scroll down until you find Chase, and the short stories are there.
Me gustaría ver un final donde el protagonista pueda ser feliz a la par de Leo :(
Im sorry, but thats not how it works.
El punto es el soltar, no el aferrarse a algo que sabes que te hará daño
O sea, los dos felices? Sí, absolutamente. Juntos? No, mejor separados aunque tratando sus temas y hablando las cosas >:(
puedes leer fanfics con estas ideas en Archive, hay muchas buenas con Leo y Chase juntos y estableciendo su relacion
Claro, pero después de leer todo ambos necesitan madurar y siento que se hacen daño juntos. Una vez resueltas esas cosas quizás puedan volver a ser pajera, pero antes de eso? No.
Complicado decir, Chase tiene muchas caras, puede ser idiota, obsesivo, un cobarde total, alguien que siempre va a ayudar o que está dispuesto a hacer las cosas más difíciles por los suyos. Leo es muy complicado siendo obsesivo, agresivo, testarudo, un protector de los suyos y alguien en quien puedes confiar. Al final resolver todos sus problemas se vuelve muy difícil por qué estar juntos los va a alejar de todos los demás. Son una pareja muy bonita pero son más sanos estando separados. Cómo que juntos retroalimentan sus peores cualidades.
It appears trying to open backlog during phone displays messes the game up.
While I'm on I may as well ask. There isn't some final route to this is there? I know a harem route would be silly and a "supah happy end" probably doesn't suit this thing but... anything?
Not super happy, but Jenna's route gives a good closure to all characters.
Closest to a Happy ending is Carl Good Ending and Jennas Good Ending, and yes a good ending is possible in echo even if the "bad endings" are more thematically fitting and better.
Well, I mean like one of those final endings where they solve everything. Like having the route characters come together (with their issues resolved) like one of those sentai shows against the villain.
Jenna at least comes close.