so i have on phone and i updated it and now i have 2. one says echo 1.0 and the other says echo and they have different icons. so what is the difference between them and what one is newer?
i uhhh...man idek...found the smoke room a few months ago and quickly found this and arches too....played flynn's route and carl's route and dropped it for a while....last few weeks i played tj's, leo's, and now i just finished jenna's....honestly i feel empty....it feels like i just lost a whole family when the credits rolled. like my life is done and i dont have anything good anymore...its a great game but im so fucking sad its over....they all felt so real...like real people....like my friends or my enemies or my creepy voices in my head....i dont know what im gonna do now.....probably play route 65 and the new update for TSR....i cant shake the feeling that i'm never gonna recover from this....shit im being overdramatic its just a game...but jesus
Easily the best VN ive ever played its a mix of scary and sad and some happy moments its super good a great artstyle and everything all and all incredible.
vndb says ~31 hours (only off of 4 votes though), it took me 28 with a text speed that was bumped up a few notches from the default, but i've heard it take up to 40 depending on reading speed
What can I say the writing for this was really interesting & quickly drew me into the story. The way the characters interacted with each other was very well done. I found myself utterly stunned by the plot twists at the end. I also enjoyed the art style esp. for TJ.
TJ is my fav. character because I really relate to the struggles he goes through. I have been in several relationships where I ended up being physically & emotionally abused. Unfortunately one of them was a close relative who also tried to kill me a few times. Strangely instead of being depressed by the story I found it to be intriguing & somewhat therapeutic.
More people need to go about presenting abuse the way it is done in your plot with an intimate representation of the emotions & reasons behind the abusive behavior. I especially liked the parts where the stress of what happened in the past makes Chase go completely insane causing him to see strange versions of himself in the mirror & hearing a voice in his head urging him to do things. Overall I enjoyed this VN a lot & am looking forward to your other works as this is the 1st. one I have had the pleasure of experiencing.
Definitely agree about it being therapeutic. Echo handles the topic well enough from a lot of angles across the different routes to really help with processing abuse, or at least it did for me.
That's one way to put it, I'm still shock this has more quality and is willing to engage deeper in thought than any mainstream media would ever dare to go through
On the main menu, click on the sea (the top of the screen) to access the secret menu. Once there, click on the broken mirror on the bottom left of the screen. There, scroll down until you find Chase, and the short stories are there.
Claro, pero después de leer todo ambos necesitan madurar y siento que se hacen daño juntos. Una vez resueltas esas cosas quizás puedan volver a ser pajera, pero antes de eso? No.
Complicado decir, Chase tiene muchas caras, puede ser idiota, obsesivo, un cobarde total, alguien que siempre va a ayudar o que está dispuesto a hacer las cosas más difíciles por los suyos. Leo es muy complicado siendo obsesivo, agresivo, testarudo, un protector de los suyos y alguien en quien puedes confiar. Al final resolver todos sus problemas se vuelve muy difícil por qué estar juntos los va a alejar de todos los demás. Son una pareja muy bonita pero son más sanos estando separados. Cómo que juntos retroalimentan sus peores cualidades.
It appears trying to open backlog during phone displays messes the game up.
While I'm on I may as well ask. There isn't some final route to this is there? I know a harem route would be silly and a "supah happy end" probably doesn't suit this thing but... anything?
Closest to a Happy ending is Carl Good Ending and Jennas Good Ending, and yes a good ending is possible in echo even if the "bad endings" are more thematically fitting and better.
Well, I mean like one of those final endings where they solve everything. Like having the route characters come together (with their issues resolved) like one of those sentai shows against the villain.
I downloaded the latest update, but I already finished the game and had to delete the older version to download the new one
My question is can someone tell me where to find the four new cgs? like at what point in each route, I don't wanna miss them by skipping too much and I don't wanna re-read events that I already know, any help is much appreciated!
I kept downloading this but it wont allow me too, I can download other games but not this, I really want to play it because it pique my interest, I would be happy if i can do something to make it work
ive only got through like 50% of the game, the only really big critique i can give is that alot of the character dont look like the animal they're based off, chase looks closer to a bear than an otter. though other than that the game is a vibe, the story was compelling and i liked the characters except carl fuck carl.
oh yeah and you made me laugh with the funny car honk so well done
(oh yeah and the imprint yourself onto mc trope was done pretty well tyty)
um.... even if its poorly done make sure to add actual blood to the models if they're injured, kinda weird if the group are like WOW YOU'RE IN PAIN SO MUCH BLOOD, and its the same model as before
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Just making it clear these are nitpicks, i love this game lmao
Oh boy here I am, being that jackass about to complain about something.
But I dont know how I feel about the new sprite for Chase, the old one had that uncanny almost human look to it that really put you on edge when seeing Chase for the first time.
Now he just looks goofy, I dont know how to feel about it, and it still doesn't match well with the other sprites.
Edit: after playing 4 episodes of the extras and getting use to/playing around with Chase expressions Im actually starting to like it, it still looks goofy but it's the good kind of goofy that makes pre collage Chase look adorably twinkish which I guess works for the time.
i just finished my first route, TJs route, and like...? loss of words.. this was written so well phenomenal. now i gotta deal with the ol' reliable hole in my chest loved this so much
again? To be honest (my love to EchoProject VNs aside) there is no other furry VN that is at least slightly as good as Echo if we are talking about storytelling, characters building and touching other emotions than smut horniness. Well, there IS actually, they are called The Smoke Room and Arches, but oh irony they are both by EchoProject :)
Although, if there are VNs as good as this I will gladly read them and if you could tell me their names I would be obliged :3
(the only vn that was close to beat Echo was "the house in fata morgana", but a furry aspect aside, I still find Echo better) (I read or watched exactly 31 vn so far, I'm making a list where I write down all read so I remember what I played
Here are some VNs I've read that were very enjoyable, albeit still not a replacement for Echo. They all have some aspects of horror and mystery and I would highly recommend them:
Santa Lucia
9:22
Pervader
Dawn Chorus
Hopefully you'll like them, if you haven't read them already.
or maybe it's: trauma doesn't wrap itself up neatly in a bow, and you can't pretend that it does. No matter how much you think something is behind you, no matter how much you're certain that it was just a childhood phase and you're alright now, it always floods back suddenly and it feels like you're drowning and you can't come up for air and you can never escape. It feels like you're always going in circles... but with help, you can keep living and keep moving forward.
Me too! I also finished on Tj route last on Saturday. I was left over with feeling of sadness and loneliness. To be honest I feel like I'm on an emotional rollercoaster. And I also nearly cried too, it's just so wholesome.. At least I know im not being only one who's gotten on their knees emotionally by it... (┬┬﹏┬┬)
That ending left me shocked and sad for hours, since it's the first route I did. I just wish there could be some kind of normal, non-fucked up version of this game so you can actually date them (I only care for TJ) instead of being all crazy and all but I guess not. Great game, I should've probably just listened to the "warning " on the page because it left me devastated.
Okay, I did Leo's route first and wow. I was not ready for my heart to implode. Such a bitter sweet experience. I originally chose to work things out with Leo when the train arrived and damn that sucked for Chase. But then I redid it and got the better ending. You outdid yourself with the heartstring tugs on this one.
Finally finished playing this game today and there's an update?! Definitely gonna have to check out all of the new art now. <3 I followed the suggestion of another comment here for what order to do the routes in, and I mostly agree, with one tiny swap. If you are new to this game, the order I recommend you play is:
Carl
Leo
Jenna
TJ
Flynn
This order IMO creates the most cohesive story experience. I guess if you really want to, you can switch the order of the first three around, but I am adamant on playing TJ penultimately and Flynn last. TBH I am of the opinion that Flynn's route should only be unlocked after playing all of the other ones but ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
Overall, a really incredible experience and I'm in awe that it's completely free. Much love to everyone who poured their heart & soul into this project, it was a great way to spend the past few weeks. :) never thought I'd have such strong emotions towards a guy whose name is Carl
Flynn being the last totally makes sense. I usually like to give another way to play (you do you, ofc x3): 1. TJ as it introduces the group, its traumas, and the tensions inside of it. It's also imo a good choice for the 1st route because it's not that creepy, there is no surreal. 2. Carl. Now that the group is introduced, I think it's time to play the route that has literally no connections to the other routes xD. His route focuses on him and his ancestor while being totally separated from the main storyline. Carl's route is creepy, a little sad, but especially "WTFFFFF". 3. Leo. Leo's route is something different. It introduces new elements to the story (the Hysteria, the Hum, etc...) but they're not explained and therefore you're left to ponder things. Besides, Leo's route is also scary as shit. 4. Jenna. Now Jenna's route is not THAT scary (except for the dam scene that I LOVED). Jenna's route tells you a little bit more about the "elements" introduced in Leo's route (The Hysteria, the Hum, and... the Socketman ;P), allowing you to draw conclusions, but you're not quite sure. 5. Flynn. I think Flynn's route's motto could be "Mixing everything". Because it does. It mixes the group tension AND the terrifying elements, but most importantly, it reveals everything to you. It all comes to you in one, last, showing scene, in which you're left to cry, unable to do anything. Flynn's route combines extreme sadness, fright, and wtf-ness. I don't know if I make much sense in this message tbh, explaining all this makes my English go crazy xD
Your English is great! Much more impressive than monolingual ol' me.
tbh TJ's route was actually the one that creeped me out the most. To me, less paranormal doesn't equal less scary. Carl's route creeped me out the least, although one ending is definitely more creepy than the other lol.
Thanks! Means a lot :D (My Frenchy ass is satisfied lmao) Well, TJ's route indeed remains a little scary, and you're right, less paranormal doesn't equal less scary (in fact, in most cases it means SCARY AS SHIT XD). But I guess I was so hyped and terrified before playing Echo, and I was expecting mind-blowing shit, and it's not what TJ's route gave me. If I hadn't played this route first, maybe it would have creeped me out more ahah
There is a bug in the windows version: the fast forward and the skip are swapped, and when i click the fast forward option (which is skip) it blocks sometimes and i need to click it again to continue the fast forwarding. Also the skip option doesn't skip to the next choose and it jumps only some sentences
He had in mind that it would be hard to accidentally show Leo as bad husbando material, but not only show him as bad one, also explain why, because this is the most important.
This way EchoProject made character that can't be seen as a villain and instead is seen as a person with flaws like we all are
Everyone in this VN are shown this way, everyone has two sides: the good one and the bad one (yes TJ, you too)
I asked just to see if something changed ever since I played his route a year ago, GOD if his route wasn't traumatizing, tho i always kind of get why people would be so in love with this guy, he's basically the embodiment of a nostalgia for your first love and all the "what would have happeneds" that surrounds him, like you know you have to move on, but they'll always have a place in your heart for all they meant, even if you were incredibly toxic for each other, but in the end you need to let go...
That and he is hot XD, chingas a tu madre cada vez que respires pinche perro todo toxico y culero, (for everyone that doesn't speak spanish "lysm <3 latino solidarity")
Also, P.D. while I didn’t particularly like TJ´s route I’ve always loved how they perfectly portray how toxic his desire for vengeance is but how afraid he is to act upon it himself, having to rely on others to fight for him, even manifesting to an extent as a sort of twisted wish fulfillment love sick chase that acts as his abuser and Knight in shining armor doing everything TJ ever wanted to be done.
I just completed the game for the first time, in the sense that I completed one route. The visuals are beautiful. The Art is good. The story is great. The Music is good. The sfx are amazing. 10/10, would recommend to everyone. QUIT READING NOW IF YOU DON’T WANT SPOILERS. I got stuck in one decision in particular. I was chilling with Carl and TJ, and I had to fall asleep on one of them. Carl seems like such a dude. Like, he’s your bro. But TJ looked soft. And off I went. TJ’s route. I love TJ. A good Christian boy. Really reminds me of myself. It seemed pretty fine at first, and I was really starting to get emotionally attached to both. But then Chase started going… bad. Don’t get my wrong, fuck Julian. Die in a hole bitch. I got genuinely angry at Julian, even though I knew I shouldn’t have been. I was becoming Chase. But I start realizing what was going on, and I started getting creeped out. I didn’t want to kiss TJ(want to cuddle him sooo much though). I’m still fuzzy on how TJ killed Sydney, unless I’m just stupid and Chase actually did see them. I hated Flynn for a long time, but I ended up feeling bad for him in the end. This game got to me on an emotional level. I felt for every single character. I even felt bad for not talking to Leo while spending so much time with TJ. I hated Chase for what he did, trying to kiss TJ, but as I saw Chase’s decline, I understood. This game is outstanding, and I love everything about it. I can’t wait to spend more late nights completing the other routes. Yes, I did cry myself to sleep after completing TJ’s route. Thanks for reading!
Hahah yeah first route experience is such a shock for any of the 5 routes. Though I get being fuzzy on that one part if you haven't had the context of the other routes. It's actually Chase who killed Sydney. That's not a spoiler for the other routes either, you're supposed to find that out in Tj's.
I'd recommend playing Leo's next, then Carl's, then Flynn's and then Jenna.
Carl's is probably the most confusing to get through since it introduces a new idea that isn't explored in Leo's and Tj's so maybe playing Flynn's route before Carls would be better but either way I'd recommend you do Leo next and definitely end with Jenna.
Don't you think it's a better option to do this order? - TJ first, it barely has supernatural, it's the most chill and is good for "beginners" - Then Carl's because it's kinda "separated" from the rest of the story and has a good horror ladder. - Then Leo's, probably the scariest, introducing new elements to the story, but just briefly
- Then Jenna's, telling you even more about these elements introduced in Leo's story (also the dam scene is so good)
- Then Flynn, because it's the most complex, scariest (Sydney's flashbakcs), saddest, most wtf, and mostly because the very end of the route is like a twist: Within a few lines, you understand everything about the story, the past, the *truth*.
I Think you could easily change places among Jenna and Flynn's route. I could tell Jenna's is the canonic good ending and Flynn is the canonic bad ending.
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so i have on phone and i updated it and now i have 2. one says echo 1.0 and the other says echo and they have different icons. so what is the difference between them and what one is newer?
i uhhh...man idek...found the smoke room a few months ago and quickly found this and arches too....played flynn's route and carl's route and dropped it for a while....last few weeks i played tj's, leo's, and now i just finished jenna's....honestly i feel empty....it feels like i just lost a whole family when the credits rolled. like my life is done and i dont have anything good anymore...its a great game but im so fucking sad its over....they all felt so real...like real people....like my friends or my enemies or my creepy voices in my head....i dont know what im gonna do now.....probably play route 65 and the new update for TSR....i cant shake the feeling that i'm never gonna recover from this....shit im being overdramatic its just a game...but jesus
thats the echo experience for ya
Also someone have a deep conversation with me about echo, we can do it here or discord, discord is easier. Saber#2750
If you're still interested, I'm in. kremill#4628 (also Carl is one of my favourites)
Sent you FR, Angemonium#1096
Favorite characters?? Mine are Kudzu and Flynn for obvious reasons.
What's the name of the credits song I forgot
Each Ending has its own song.
Carl - Echo by Bugboy
Leo - Blurry by Bugboy
TJ - When Stars Align by Abyuse
Flynn - When your arms were around me (Not sure who the artist is and if it was v1 or v2)
Jenna - Book of Job by Hop Skip and the Chew Toys
Thanks also spoiler:
Is there a way to still stay with Leo without losing your legs and the game ending like is there more Dialog or is that just it
SPOILER:
No. The good ending for Leo is him finally letting go of the past and moving on with his life instead of obsessing over you.
Easily the best VN ive ever played its a mix of scary and sad and some happy moments its super good a great artstyle and everything all and all incredible.
Ok so I got a question and the answer should be spoilers so please read with caution, I will try to redact it with as little spoiler I can.
During a certain remembrance, a certain character gets hit by a Van.
Could someone please remind me which name does this character say?
spoiler
You had in mind a Jack? Jack from TSR?
Spoiler
He did said Jack right? That's really sad, specially because he wasn't loved back.
iirc it's V2 for Flynn's ending. The difference is that V2 has a xylophone whereas V1 has a synth.
How long to beat this?
took me an entire week to get all of the endings, used 79/80 saves, dedicated my time to it too
something I find interesting is you can go past 80 on the save list.
vndb says ~31 hours (only off of 4 votes though), it took me 28 with a text speed that was bumped up a few notches from the default, but i've heard it take up to 40 depending on reading speed
did they ever fix that thing in Carl's route where it doesn't skip the already seem text between the good and bad routes ?
How many ending is exactly in this game I want to know
There are 8 main endings
3 (quote) "good" endings
5 psychologicaly troubling endings
All 5 routs have a bad ending
only 3 routes have (quote) "good" endings
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Only Carl, Leo and Jenna's route have (quote) "good" endings
If it's ok can u tell me what happen at every ending
I don't mind spoiler
Spoiler:
The good ending for Leo I think is when you say its over and you get with kudzu and come back 2 years later and say hi to leo
Is Leo from El Salvador or Honduras?
Edit: OMG HES FROM EL SALVADOR TOO
10/10 im traumatized :)
Great VN. But I have a question. Was Julian based off of Gordon Freeman from Half-Life? I see very little differences in both...
What can I say the writing for this was really interesting & quickly drew me into the story. The way the characters interacted with each other was very well done. I found myself utterly stunned by the plot twists at the end. I also enjoyed the art style esp. for TJ.
TJ is my fav. character because I really relate to the struggles he goes through. I have been in several relationships where I ended up being physically & emotionally abused. Unfortunately one of them was a close relative who also tried to kill me a few times. Strangely instead of being depressed by the story I found it to be intriguing & somewhat therapeutic.
More people need to go about presenting abuse the way it is done in your plot with an intimate representation of the emotions & reasons behind the abusive behavior. I especially liked the parts where the stress of what happened in the past makes Chase go completely insane causing him to see strange versions of himself in the mirror & hearing a voice in his head urging him to do things. Overall I enjoyed this VN a lot & am looking forward to your other works as this is the 1st. one I have had the pleasure of experiencing.
Definitely agree about it being therapeutic. Echo handles the topic well enough from a lot of angles across the different routes to really help with processing abuse, or at least it did for me.
I still don't know what compelled a bunch of furries to drop peak fiction on us like we deserved it somehow.
That's one way to put it, I'm still shock this has more quality and is willing to engage deeper in thought than any mainstream media would ever dare to go through
Waitt is there smut/ erotic scenes in echo? I'm asking since Normally there'd be a tag for that but there's none for smut so ....
None visually depicted, no
It's like the gore in Zero Escape. Not on camera but they stuff a few text boxes with it.
How do I access the short stories?
On the main menu, click on the sea (the top of the screen) to access the secret menu. Once there, click on the broken mirror on the bottom left of the screen. There, scroll down until you find Chase, and the short stories are there.
Me gustaría ver un final donde el protagonista pueda ser feliz a la par de Leo :(
Im sorry, but thats not how it works.
El punto es el soltar, no el aferrarse a algo que sabes que te hará daño
O sea, los dos felices? Sí, absolutamente. Juntos? No, mejor separados aunque tratando sus temas y hablando las cosas >:(
puedes leer fanfics con estas ideas en Archive, hay muchas buenas con Leo y Chase juntos y estableciendo su relacion
Claro, pero después de leer todo ambos necesitan madurar y siento que se hacen daño juntos. Una vez resueltas esas cosas quizás puedan volver a ser pajera, pero antes de eso? No.
Complicado decir, Chase tiene muchas caras, puede ser idiota, obsesivo, un cobarde total, alguien que siempre va a ayudar o que está dispuesto a hacer las cosas más difíciles por los suyos. Leo es muy complicado siendo obsesivo, agresivo, testarudo, un protector de los suyos y alguien en quien puedes confiar. Al final resolver todos sus problemas se vuelve muy difícil por qué estar juntos los va a alejar de todos los demás. Son una pareja muy bonita pero son más sanos estando separados. Cómo que juntos retroalimentan sus peores cualidades.
It appears trying to open backlog during phone displays messes the game up.
While I'm on I may as well ask. There isn't some final route to this is there? I know a harem route would be silly and a "supah happy end" probably doesn't suit this thing but... anything?
Not super happy, but Jenna's route gives a good closure to all characters.
Closest to a Happy ending is Carl Good Ending and Jennas Good Ending, and yes a good ending is possible in echo even if the "bad endings" are more thematically fitting and better.
Well, I mean like one of those final endings where they solve everything. Like having the route characters come together (with their issues resolved) like one of those sentai shows against the villain.
Jenna at least comes close.
Is chase's story over or will it continue I'm curious
There is a sequel called Arches but it's not about Chase.
I know about arches I've played it myself but im asking I specifically chase's story is going to be explored more
What would they go with for the canon ending though? ... Well, there are series where all endings are canon but those have some lore reason or other.
I downloaded the latest update, but I already finished the game and had to delete the older version to download the new one
My question is can someone tell me where to find the four new cgs? like at what point in each route, I don't wanna miss them by skipping too much and I don't wanna re-read events that I already know, any help is much appreciated!
{SPOILERS}
one cg appears in both leo and flynn's route (duke's car wreck)
two in flynn's route (in the broom closet at town hall, and in the smoke room near the end)
and one new one in jenna's route (in heather's house)
Thank you very much! I appreciate the help ✨
I loved the game I played through all the endings but I feel like a lot of them end abruptly and without conclusion it feels like something is missing
On "Friday" there's an oversight for TJ's route. (Didn't play any other route so I don't know if it happens for the others as well.)
It says "the only the sound" which doesn't make sense but yeah nice game so far. :)
Hyperbole
I kept downloading this but it wont allow me too, I can download other games but not this, I really want to play it because it pique my interest, I would be happy if i can do something to make it work
ive only got through like 50% of the game, the only really big critique i can give is that alot of the character dont look like the animal they're based off, chase looks closer to a bear than an otter. though other than that the game is a vibe, the story was compelling and i liked the characters except carl fuck carl.
oh yeah and you made me laugh with the funny car honk so well done
(oh yeah and the imprint yourself onto mc trope was done pretty well tyty)
um.... even if its poorly done make sure to add actual blood to the models if they're injured, kinda weird if the group are like WOW YOU'RE IN PAIN SO MUCH BLOOD, and its the same model as before
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Just making it clear these are nitpicks, i love this game lmao
Dude have you played Carl's route?
Ye but i just hate carl, like i was born just to hate this character, and i dont know why
ok ig ರ╭╮ರ
I lost my hotpocket ))))))):
{itfel down ate well oh naur))
Oh boy here I am, being that jackass about to complain about something.
But I dont know how I feel about the new sprite for Chase, the old one had that uncanny almost human look to it that really put you on edge when seeing Chase for the first time.
Now he just looks goofy, I dont know how to feel about it, and it still doesn't match well with the other sprites.
Edit: after playing 4 episodes of the extras and getting use to/playing around with Chase expressions Im actually starting to like it, it still looks goofy but it's the good kind of goofy that makes pre collage Chase look adorably twinkish which I guess works for the time.
Funnily enough I had this same thought and figured it might grow on me, time to go see it used myself.
i just finished my first route, TJs route, and like...? loss of words.. this was written so well phenomenal. now i gotta deal with the ol' reliable hole in my chest loved this so much
again? To be honest (my love to EchoProject VNs aside) there is no other furry VN that is at least slightly as good as Echo if we are talking about storytelling, characters building and touching other emotions than smut horniness. Well, there IS actually, they are called The Smoke Room and Arches, but oh irony they are both by EchoProject :)
Although, if there are VNs as good as this I will gladly read them and if you could tell me their names I would be obliged :3
(the only vn that was close to beat Echo was "the house in fata morgana", but a furry aspect aside, I still find Echo better) (I read or watched exactly 31 vn so far, I'm making a list where I write down all read so I remember what I played
Here are some VNs I've read that were very enjoyable, albeit still not a replacement for Echo. They all have some aspects of horror and mystery and I would highly recommend them:
Santa Lucia
9:22
Pervader
Dawn Chorus
Hopefully you'll like them, if you haven't read them already.
Undertale papyrus dating sim lmfao
also is there a moral to this i need to know lmao
I'm pretty sure the moral is "shit's fucked"
or maybe it's: trauma doesn't wrap itself up neatly in a bow, and you can't pretend that it does. No matter how much you think something is behind you, no matter how much you're certain that it was just a childhood phase and you're alright now, it always floods back suddenly and it feels like you're drowning and you can't come up for air and you can never escape. It feels like you're always going in circles... but with help, you can keep living and keep moving forward.
or just, like. "go to therapy"
wow, this was quite the hard hitting vn.
just finished it for the first time and i acc nearly cried*
this was absolutely fu-
i mean, this was absolutely freaking well made (yw TJ) and the storyline was a good balance of drama and just generic story.
also just saying but i find tj and leo hot
anywayssss, please do more vns like this, i sincerely enjoyed this even with me going into heart-broken state lol.<3
incoming spoilers*
i got the ending where chase drowned flynn, the image of TJ and chase hugging just broke my heart.
Me too! I also finished on Tj route last on Saturday. I was left over with feeling of sadness and loneliness. To be honest I feel like I'm on an emotional rollercoaster. And I also nearly cried too, it's just so wholesome.. At least I know im not being only one who's gotten on their knees emotionally by it... (┬┬﹏┬┬)
haha sameeee tho
That ending left me shocked and sad for hours, since it's the first route I did. I just wish there could be some kind of normal, non-fucked up version of this game so you can actually date them (I only care for TJ) instead of being all crazy and all but I guess not. Great game, I should've probably just listened to the "warning " on the page because it left me devastated.
Okay, I did Leo's route first and wow. I was not ready for my heart to implode. Such a bitter sweet experience. I originally chose to work things out with Leo when the train arrived and damn that sucked for Chase. But then I redid it and got the better ending. You outdid yourself with the heartstring tugs on this one.
yeah being a LeoxChase shipper must suck but do you understand the pain us FlynnxChase shippers have to endure????????????
Finally finished playing this game today and there's an update?! Definitely gonna have to check out all of the new art now. <3
I followed the suggestion of another comment here for what order to do the routes in, and I mostly agree, with one tiny swap. If you are new to this game, the order I recommend you play is:
This order IMO creates the most cohesive story experience. I guess if you really want to, you can switch the order of the first three around, but I am adamant on playing TJ penultimately and Flynn last. TBH I am of the opinion that Flynn's route should only be unlocked after playing all of the other ones but ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
Overall, a really incredible experience and I'm in awe that it's completely free. Much love to everyone who poured their heart & soul into this project, it was a great way to spend the past few weeks. :) never thought I'd have such strong emotions towards a guy whose name is Carl
Flynn being the last totally makes sense.
I usually like to give another way to play (you do you, ofc x3):
1. TJ as it introduces the group, its traumas, and the tensions inside of it. It's also imo a good choice for the 1st route because it's not that creepy, there is no surreal.
2. Carl. Now that the group is introduced, I think it's time to play the route that has literally no connections to the other routes xD. His route focuses on him and his ancestor while being totally separated from the main storyline.
Carl's route is creepy, a little sad, but especially "WTFFFFF".
3. Leo. Leo's route is something different. It introduces new elements to the story (the Hysteria, the Hum, etc...) but they're not explained and therefore you're left to ponder things. Besides, Leo's route is also scary as shit.
4. Jenna. Now Jenna's route is not THAT scary (except for the dam scene that I LOVED). Jenna's route tells you a little bit more about the "elements" introduced in Leo's route (The Hysteria, the Hum, and... the Socketman ;P), allowing you to draw conclusions, but you're not quite sure.
5. Flynn. I think Flynn's route's motto could be "Mixing everything". Because it does. It mixes the group tension AND the terrifying elements, but most importantly, it reveals everything to you. It all comes to you in one, last, showing scene, in which you're left to cry, unable to do anything. Flynn's route combines extreme sadness, fright, and wtf-ness.
I don't know if I make much sense in this message tbh, explaining all this makes my English go crazy xD
Your English is great! Much more impressive than monolingual ol' me.
tbh TJ's route was actually the one that creeped me out the most. To me, less paranormal doesn't equal less scary. Carl's route creeped me out the least, although one ending is definitely more creepy than the other lol.
Thanks! Means a lot :D
(My Frenchy ass is satisfied lmao)
Well, TJ's route indeed remains a little scary, and you're right, less paranormal doesn't equal less scary (in fact, in most cases it means SCARY AS SHIT XD). But I guess I was so hyped and terrified before playing Echo, and I was expecting mind-blowing shit, and it's not what TJ's route gave me. If I hadn't played this route first, maybe it would have creeped me out more ahah
There is a bug in the windows version: the fast forward and the skip are swapped, and when i click the fast forward option (which is skip) it blocks sometimes and i need to click it again to continue the fast forwarding. Also the skip option doesn't skip to the next choose and it jumps only some sentences
Wow ty the update 😍
hi people on the compagnion app of itch can't download the game because the build for windows doesn't have an os setup
For the PC download, I marked it as "For Windows" just now. It shouldn't give you grief.
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we all know, but he's a wolf with tits so I would let that man manipulate and ruin my life.
lmfaoooo
It would've been nice for him to join the others on escaping
probably but it hasnt stopped leo from being my number one best husband unironically
haven't played the game yet but probably, it sounds like it would be hard to accidentally do that
what thing?
He had in mind that it would be hard to accidentally show Leo as bad husbando material, but not only show him as bad one, also explain why, because this is the most important.
This way EchoProject made character that can't be seen as a villain and instead is seen as a person with flaws like we all are
Everyone in this VN are shown this way, everyone has two sides: the good one and the bad one (yes TJ, you too)
I asked just to see if something changed ever since I played his route a year ago, GOD if his route wasn't traumatizing, tho i always kind of get why people would be so in love with this guy, he's basically the embodiment of a nostalgia for your first love and all the "what would have happeneds" that surrounds him, like you know you have to move on, but they'll always have a place in your heart for all they meant, even if you were incredibly toxic for each other, but in the end you need to let go...
That and he is hot XD, chingas a tu madre cada vez que respires pinche perro todo toxico y culero, (for everyone that doesn't speak spanish "lysm <3 latino solidarity")
Also, P.D. while I didn’t particularly like TJ´s route I’ve always loved how they perfectly portray how toxic his desire for vengeance is but how afraid he is to act upon it himself, having to rely on others to fight for him, even manifesting to an extent as a sort of twisted wish fulfillment love sick chase that acts as his abuser and Knight in shining armor doing everything TJ ever wanted to be done.
Are you talking about the overprotection thing? Or something else?
I just completed the game for the first time, in the sense that I completed one route. The visuals are beautiful. The Art is good. The story is great. The Music is good. The sfx are amazing. 10/10, would recommend to everyone. QUIT READING NOW IF YOU DON’T WANT SPOILERS. I got stuck in one decision in particular. I was chilling with Carl and TJ, and I had to fall asleep on one of them. Carl seems like such a dude. Like, he’s your bro. But TJ looked soft. And off I went. TJ’s route. I love TJ. A good Christian boy. Really reminds me of myself. It seemed pretty fine at first, and I was really starting to get emotionally attached to both. But then Chase started going… bad. Don’t get my wrong, fuck Julian. Die in a hole bitch. I got genuinely angry at Julian, even though I knew I shouldn’t have been. I was becoming Chase. But I start realizing what was going on, and I started getting creeped out. I didn’t want to kiss TJ(want to cuddle him sooo much though). I’m still fuzzy on how TJ killed Sydney, unless I’m just stupid and Chase actually did see them. I hated Flynn for a long time, but I ended up feeling bad for him in the end. This game got to me on an emotional level. I felt for every single character. I even felt bad for not talking to Leo while spending so much time with TJ. I hated Chase for what he did, trying to kiss TJ, but as I saw Chase’s decline, I understood. This game is outstanding, and I love everything about it. I can’t wait to spend more late nights completing the other routes. Yes, I did cry myself to sleep after completing TJ’s route. Thanks for reading!
Hahah yeah first route experience is such a shock for any of the 5 routes. Though I get being fuzzy on that one part if you haven't had the context of the other routes. It's actually Chase who killed Sydney. That's not a spoiler for the other routes either, you're supposed to find that out in Tj's.
I'd recommend playing Leo's next, then Carl's, then Flynn's and then Jenna.
Carl's is probably the most confusing to get through since it introduces a new idea that isn't explored in Leo's and Tj's so maybe playing Flynn's route before Carls would be better but either way I'd recommend you do Leo next and definitely end with Jenna.
wait wait wait, so, TJ saying he was the one who killed Sydney was just TJ trying to protect Chase?
Don't you think it's a better option to do this order?
- TJ first, it barely has supernatural, it's the most chill and is good for "beginners"
- Then Carl's because it's kinda "separated" from the rest of the story and has a good horror ladder.
- Then Leo's, probably the scariest, introducing new elements to the story, but just briefly
- Then Jenna's, telling you even more about these elements introduced in Leo's story (also the dam scene is so good)
- Then Flynn, because it's the most complex, scariest (Sydney's flashbakcs), saddest, most wtf, and mostly because the very end of the route is like a twist: Within a few lines, you understand everything about the story, the past, the *truth*.
I Think you could easily change places among Jenna and Flynn's route. I could tell Jenna's is the canonic good ending and Flynn is the canonic bad ending.