Leo is good but i think imma pass - _- i always imagined a guy being like that to me but too much is too much so no thanks, also the thing he did with someone
i feel betrayed after knowing that i thought he loves the mc but mehh fuck leo spoilers
Love the game tho thanks for giving me the nightmares <3 (jk)
Shadow Chase walking animation gives me the chillls its still on my brain ffs
"You were kinda thin, which was cute, but you should eat more..." "Make sure Chase gets a real big chunk. He's getting waaay too skinny." WHAT DO YOU WANT, LEO??? TELL ME A SHAPE TO BE AND I'LL BE IT
yes, but the question is, what does Leo actually want? the earlier implies thinner than chase currently is would be most attractive to him, the latter the opposite
Former statement implies Leo thinks Chase was cute when he was skinny. The conjunction "but" implies he wants something more from him in the present/future as opposed to the past; hence, Leo tells Chase he "should eat more" as a nudging suggestion in hopes to appeal to his newfound appetite. Leo expresses his sexual taste for THICC otters when he states he desires "real big chunk" and dislikes "way too skinny"; the phrase "too [insert adjective here]" sets a negative connotation in just about any language and describes someone of having a trait that seems excessive and unhealthy. I fail to understand how you didn't understand even your own post...
Regardless, if perfect, then why did Leo make his statement? Tulpa Chase represents the past that Leo clings onto; hence, the physical thinness and missing goatee. Despite the fact, the tulpa is also present because sometimes Leo desparately feels he wants Chase around. You can call someone cute (a subtle attraction), but then you also want them to be hot by [insert activity here] (a profound attraction).
PRAISE: This game's story is absolutely fantastic, I sadly chose the TJ route as my first (I thought he was cute) and the feeling I was left with was one of [sadness, loss, happiness, a little bit scared and traumatised]. Never in my life have I felt in such a way after watching/reading any book, series, movie or game. I'm kinda scared of playing the other routes for now, but I will. 9.99/10
FEEDBACK:
- A true ending would be amazing for clearing things out, straightening them
- Another ending for TJ. At least an option for not (SPOILERS AHEAD: killing Flynn) or fighting off whatever the hell that thing in Chase's head was at the hotel and in his mind
(I just want my boy TJ and Chase to be happy together qwq)
as someone who's really really keen on communication, it's interesting to think about how different things could be if chase just talked. talk to jenna in the car ride over, talk to leo when he gets to the motel, talk to flynn on a walk along the lake, talk to tj on a hike, talk to carl over a smoke and a game. things could be so much better if they just talked.
I just want Leo and Chase to have another chance or just an open ending about them. Not Micha and Leo interesting in each other because I can see how their relationship is changing. Whyyyyyyy Echo Project
BIG AGREE. if i were chase i'd say something along the lines of, "listen, leo. i have felt terrible about how my hanging out with jenna this past week made you feel, and it, along with the threat posed by micha, has made me realize just how much i can't live without you. if we could speak as openly about all our problems as the van made us with this, i think we could get through anything. could i ever convince you to take my dumb ass back?
ikr,The writers could make a good ending for Jenna and Chase, everyone else still be friends and could be a couple in the future, but not a chance for Leo and Chase to get back together( WHAT??), I literally don't know why and Leo's ''good'' ending is not it. Because there are still problems to solve, but they decided to make Chase run away from all the problems to live with Kudzu, Leo is traumatized, alone and don't need anybody helps for the rest of his life
i think any problem in a relationship can be worked through with open, honest discussion, and it hurts to never get the chance to do that. i get why as a character Chase wouldn't, but it still hurts
No, but you can infer by definition. Draco even answered you in parantheses as to "who[m]" Leo may have called chula. A little bewildered you didn't catch who chula is on first reference in the VN...
You failed to mention Micha in your original post...
How was there ever a thing between Leo and Micha apart from the prequel...? What is "love" to you? Because I don't sense any "love" (perhaps sympathy) between the two.
is it bad that the things the game considers bad about leo and reasons he and chase dont work only attract me to him more? i want nothing more than a good ending with leo, even if i know why he doesn't have one. maybe in another game in the franchise i guess...
that's really upsetting. i love leo so much. i know chase isn't a player insert type, so there's no reason to think things between me and (bi au) leo would go thusly, but, it still hurts. the "bad" ending is definitely my canon ending, i can't leave him.
Yeah its sad. I like Leo too, he's an interesting and cool character. Chase is cute but they have so many problems! Honestly though they should have given their relationship another chance.
Oh man , I want to play this game but I was too scared . I Played adastra before and I took it so hard , I don't think playing this game is good for my emotions but I want to tryyy !!!
I swear,if echoproject started making this VN in to a movie its going to make my dream come true and it will be the best of the best movie I've ever watched......if echoproject is planning it for the future I'll be sure to support you guys one day im finished my college and get a job I'll help you guys so my wish will be come true its gonna be so damn worth it,watching it is the only wish i had now in my life before i die ,I'll wait....
I do not agree with turning Echo into a movie. There are just wayyy too many routes and endings to solidify into an hour-and-a-half plot; then, there is the issue of determining what is canon by the developers and sharp criticism from the passionate fandom. If anything, I can see Echo as a Netflix adaptation making vol.1 have a mix of good and bad endings for half the characters and vol.2 another mix for the rest of the crew.
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You Know, at a point, Carl tells you that he has a job interview on Friday. But then why does it happen on Saturday? Is this something that is known and ignored by the writers or....? I don't know. Could someone please explain?
Before reading this VN i got happy,enjoy and inloved but.....after reading it....suddenly idk whats going on i just feel numb..like got a huge depression and anxiety or something i just dont understand what makes that VN change me or idk........and the part it makes me want to read it all again....the voice or sam was right....i will be back,he knew that I'd be back....
i feel you. Same thing happened to me. It will pass. Honestly some routes stuck to me more than others. Especially Leo’s route. There is so much symbolism and it just speaks to me. “Echo is a bad place, but Leo is a comfort. Do you let yourself sink like an anchor and stay in the place that makes you miserable? Or do you catch that last train ride out of this hell hole?” That is so my life. I hate where I am but I stayed because of the few comforts. It really really bugged me to change my situation (but for reasons I actually cant. So that train out of here is just a tease for me that I cant actually reach, sadly).
Yes me too, i choose the bad ending cus i want him hes my comfort even tho we didn't escaped echo atleast hes there for me he helped my injury from the train at the moment he took care of me we feel comfortable each other we get to be together again he loves me so much and i love him so much either also i don't want to leave leo alone heartbroken became depressed for all his life i felt so bad leaving him like that being depressed before and........i dont care about echo......as long as leo is with me im fine,im happy im comfortable.he will protect me.....he will always be there for me....i wont let him be sad or depressed ever again.....hes love is warm.......theres is a happily ever after at the bad endings.....
hello! i just finished plaing adastra and wanted to play echo.
in wich order should i play the game? a few people said Carl>Leo>Jenna>TJ>Flynn but some people say that i should play it in TJ>Leo>Flynn>Jenna>Carl, in wich order should i play the game? :)
damn,.......samuel.......i feel bad for him.....said that Samuel has a family contact or point contac outside state after chase reported his name to the system and i dont think Samuel has a family but maybe a people who knows him??....poor samuel just died alone on the roadside buried....this VN is full of tragedies that's how i love it
her earlier sprites make her look like a fennec fox a she was refer to as such in earlier uptates, but her later designs make her like a kit fox which makes more sense since fennec foxes are native to north Africa while kit foxes are native to western north America including Utah, however the wiki just list her species as "desest fox ", can anyone explain what happened?
hiya guys, can i ask which route after carl and leo should i pick next. I see some comments that said i should follow a certain pattern of routes because of how some mysteries from the past routes are revealed. Some say jenna>tj>flynn but others say tj>flynn>jenna, mainly because something about jenna's route being the better ending. I dont mind a having the worst ending, i just wanted to play echo how the author wants us to play. So im open to suggesions
So my take away from Flynns ending other than it being extremely sad is that Flynn doesn't become socket face that appears in other routes. It's more of a vague time traveling in the sense that he's experiencing events that the socket face was there for whether it's some state of limbo or Flynn is actually there is kept ambiguous and could most likely be both in some scenarios. What leads me to believe this is that you are given the choice to kill Salem, brain, or Keith. The thing is brain is still alive in echo so is Salem until the very end and dies in a different but similar way so it doesn't make sense for there to be an option for you to have a choice here. Along with how weirdly dream like that scenario was with the tv and salem acting funny but what we do know is that this has happened in before in some way, keith did die other wise Flynn wouldn't have any reason to be seeing this it has to be some kind of created dreamlike scenario that has some truth to it. I also notice how Flynns transformation was inconsistent, Tj describes the monster as "3 holes, 2 for the eyes, 1 for the mouth" (flynn also has control in this scene) but flynn's eyes pop when he tries to see what happend to Sydney which was after tj saw socket face and he's blinded but later is able to see a younger jenna. Speaking of TJ flynns route is only one where he mentions he saw socket face and recognizes it in the car scene "its real!?" but in Leos route he doesn't even recognize it "what was that!? what was that!?". The ending is really confusing and ambiguous for a reason so it's fine to come up with your own conclusions.
Killing Salem/Brian/Keith lead to different routes, for example if you will decide to kill Brian you will get Leo route IN Flynn route, etc. for others.
Flynn doesn't have to have any reason to kill any character, he is already a monster changed by histeria, don't expect from him being this gila we knew.
Socket monster is able to travel through time, he is and isn't everywhere and in everyone routes and lives (I confused myself writing this one, I dont speak english, leme explain more: at the very same time he is at the lake when Syd got killed, when Jenna was upset and sad etc.)
In Leo's route lynx is confused instead of shocked, because he went through breakdown, he is broken to the core and in Flynn's he is more stable (that's why he catch more from monster)
Last time I played this was a long time ago and leo had no good endings imo. And he still doesn't I assume but since the game is finished might as well play the other routes now.
Tbh,for me the bad ending from leo is good ending for me cus we can finally be together again and i rlly love it they way he said "you said we work something out" at the bad ending and i feel like theres nothing wrong they get to be together again so? I dont see he will die staying at echo forever with leo hes love is genuine and the ending? They cuddle,kiss, and f*ck again happy ending.......im crazy h*rny at leo?,yea i am...
(SPOILERS AHEAD. AVERT YOUR EYES IF YOUVE NOT FINISHED LEOS ROUTE).
I think you should read this VN not in the sense that youre trying to date one of the characters, but view those characters as having a flaw that you struggle with, and conquering it by playing it out through this VN. For example the MC views Leo as an anchor that is trying to hold him down in this town he doesnt love (he admits it to himself in the 1st or 2nd hallucination). Staying with Leo in this town is obviously not what the Otter wants, even though Leo is such a comfort to be around. It isn't healthy for him and he must take the opportunity that only comes once (the train) to move on from the mistake of his past (murdering Sydney) or be stuck here forever (like having your legs taken away).... In the past they wrote fairytales of a young unwise woman falling in love with an obvious tramp, and as punishment she has to spend the rest of her unhappy life cleaning a home of a person that abuses her. Leos route is kind of a retelling of that fairytale and the moral is to move on and dont let a few comforts hold you down and trap you in a place of suffering. And in a sense Leo has to stop obsessing over the MC. That's his flaw he needs to get over. He didnt drag MC to bed all bloody like that cuz he was in love with him. He did that because he was in love with the idea of being with him and it was turning him crazy. I guess it is because of the trauma of loosing Sydney that he views others as objects instead that need to be possessed rather than people and risk having genuine feelings towards them. He doesn't want to feel that pain again I guess.
I didn't read Jenna's route but all of the characters seem to have a 'flaw' with them. Quite common flaws that me or you might have actually. And reading through their routes will help you find them and in most cases you can steer them away from the bad route and instead guide them to conquering their flaws. Thats at least the way I think when I read this VN. It is quite a emotionally difficult read for me unless I take a more clinical approach...
Dude!!! What were you READING?!!!. WHERE WERE YOUR EYES EXACTLY? 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
spoilers down below
CHASE LOST BOTH HIS FEET AND FREAKING BLED TO DEATH IN THAT ENDING!!!!! AND IT WAS LEO WHO FREAKING CAUSED IT!!! NOT TO MENTION THAT HE FUCKING KILLED KUDZU!!!🥺🥺🥺
WORSE PART IS LEO DIDNT EVEN TAKE HIM TO THE HOSPITAL . HE JUST KEPT CHASE IN HIS HOUSE LIKE SOME PROPERTY OF HIS THAT HE ALWAYS THOUGHT CHASE TO BE; CUDDLING AND AND KISSING CHASE WHILE HE SLOWLY KEPT LOSING BLOOD AND HIS SANITY 😔
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I know, I know, I'm sorry. I just really didn't like that ending
He has the heart of a lion, so Lee-HO for me. I know a kid name Leh-oh, sooo...obviously, I don't want to make subconscious references by accident; it also doesn't help me that he is also Hispanic...
Tldr; there is no "should" but to each their own in pronouncing his name. Either works, whatever is comfortable for you.
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Can we all agree that Brian is a big pile of garbage and that he deserves whatever horrible thing happens to him?
Yes, in Leo's, Jenna's and Flynn's route, a horrible thing happens to Brian.
As the previous user already wrote, this game really broke me, and I will not be able to move away from this state for a long time ...
I'm only interested in one question ... Will the third part with these characters? I mean, with Chase, Leo, TJ, Сarl, Flynn, and Jenna ...
What is your question?
I kind of wrote ...
...a question that doesn't make sense, yes.
Again, what is your question?
Will there be a new part with THESE characters? Here is my question ...
According to the Development Log:
"The Full Visual Novel Available Now" Apr 02, 2021
Therefore, no additional updates planned for Echo.
This game fucked me up but its soo heccin good <3
Leo is good but i think imma pass - _- i always imagined a guy being like that to me but too much is too much so no thanks, also the thing he did with someone
i feel betrayed after knowing that i thought he loves the mc but mehh fuck leo
spoilers
Love the game tho thanks for giving me the nightmares <3 (jk)
Shadow Chase walking animation gives me the chillls its still on my brain ffs
Hey, Echo team! Any plans for a CD soundtrack with custom print? Better yet, vinyl record!? Ea$y$! Also, Echo plushies; I'll order 6 please.
what i wouldn't do for a vinyl set and a leo plush...
"You were kinda thin, which was cute, but you should eat more..."
"Make sure Chase gets a real big chunk. He's getting waaay too skinny."
WHAT DO YOU WANT, LEO???
TELL ME A SHAPE TO BE AND I'LL BE ITI really like Chase's physique in this gallery pic, toned (average with a bit of chunk, which is kinda hot~). Leo too here all tall and broad, oomph~!
yes, but the question is, what does Leo actually want? the earlier implies thinner than chase currently is would be most attractive to him, the latter the opposite
Nooooo.....?
Former statement implies Leo thinks Chase was cute when he was skinny. The conjunction "but" implies he wants something more from him in the present/future as opposed to the past; hence, Leo tells Chase he "should eat more" as a nudging suggestion in hopes to appeal to his newfound appetite. Leo expresses his sexual taste for THICC otters when he states he desires "real big chunk" and dislikes "way too skinny"; the phrase "too [insert adjective here]" sets a negative connotation in just about any language and describes someone of having a trait that seems excessive and unhealthy. I fail to understand how you didn't understand even your own post...
yeah but he says the thinness is cute, and shadow chase is supposed to be Perfect for him, isn't he?
You originally failed to mention tulpa Chase....
Regardless, if perfect, then why did Leo make his statement? Tulpa Chase represents the past that Leo clings onto; hence, the physical thinness and missing goatee. Despite the fact, the tulpa is also present because sometimes Leo desparately feels he wants Chase around. You can call someone cute (a subtle attraction), but then you also want them to be hot by [insert activity here] (a profound attraction).
PRAISE: This game's story is absolutely fantastic, I sadly chose the TJ route as my first (I thought he was cute) and the feeling I was left with was one of [sadness, loss, happiness, a little bit scared and traumatised]. Never in my life have I felt in such a way after watching/reading any book, series, movie or game. I'm kinda scared of playing the other routes for now, but I will. 9.99/10
FEEDBACK:
- A true ending would be amazing for clearing things out, straightening them
- Another ending for TJ. At least an option for not (SPOILERS AHEAD:
killing Flynn) or fighting off whatever the hell that thing in Chase's head was at the hotel and in his mind(I just want my boy TJ and Chase to be happy together qwq)
as someone who's really really keen on communication, it's interesting to think about how different things could be if chase just talked. talk to jenna in the car ride over, talk to leo when he gets to the motel, talk to flynn on a walk along the lake, talk to tj on a hike, talk to carl over a smoke and a game. things could be so much better if they just talked.
I agree, and actually I'm going to try and do something like that in my future fanfiction, Echo true path.
consider me hyped~!
I hope I can do it really well
Heck let me know when this happens too
Yeah sure, I'm almost done with my "crazy" Echo fanfic and then will start the serious one thats my own route.
The voice in his head controlled him not to talk and manipulated his mind.
Spoiler Jenna Ending
I just want Leo and Chase to have another chance or just an open ending about them. Not Micha and Leo interesting in each other because I can see how their relationship is changing. Whyyyyyyy Echo Project
BIG AGREE. if i were chase i'd say something along the lines of, "listen, leo. i have felt terrible about how my hanging out with jenna this past week made you feel, and it, along with the threat posed by micha, has made me realize just how much i can't live without you. if we could speak as openly about all our problems as the van made us with this, i think we could get through anything. could i ever convince you to take my dumb ass back?
ikr,The writers could make a good ending for Jenna and Chase, everyone else still be friends and could be a couple in the future, but not a chance for Leo and Chase to get back together( WHAT??), I literally don't know why and Leo's ''good'' ending is not it. Because there are still problems to solve, but they decided to make Chase run away from all the problems to live with Kudzu, Leo is traumatized, alone and don't need anybody helps for the rest of his life
i think any problem in a relationship can be worked through with open, honest discussion, and it hurts to never get the chance to do that. i get why as a character Chase wouldn't, but it still hurts
Yeah, I just wish there was a second chance for them or at least Leo told Chase about his secret to clear things up a bit
who is chula? who is it that leo really loves?
"chula" is "hot / handsome" and also "bottom" in Spain (Chase was kinda mad at him when he discovered this meaning ^w^)
not really what i was asking
No, but you can infer by definition. Draco even answered you in parantheses as to "who[m]" Leo may have called chula. A little bewildered you didn't catch who chula is on first reference in the VN...
im talking about micha. he called micha chula before chase. does leo love chase? did he love micha? were we just a stand in for him?
spoiler alert!!
Chula is not refer to anyone, it is not name, its like you would call your beloved "babe"
Remember that Leo had sex with Micha, he probably had some feelings toward bat, wolf could call him that because he wanted to sound flirty? idk man.
However, to answer your questions point blank: Leo call Chase "chula"
:) peace
You failed to mention Micha in your original post...
How was there ever a thing between Leo and Micha apart from the prequel...? What is "love" to you? Because I don't sense any "love" (perhaps sympathy) between the two.
Tldr; Chase = chula...
is it bad that the things the game considers bad about leo and reasons he and chase dont work only attract me to him more? i want nothing more than a good ending with leo, even if i know why he doesn't have one. maybe in another game in the franchise i guess...
Eh, I feel kinda the same. Some of Leos "bad" traits are attractive to me!
I don't think Leo is going to be in any other games, but I have my Echo fanfiction where Leo's route ends differently.
https://archiveofourown.org/series/2191440
OH WOAH THAT'S YOU? I'VE BEEN READING IT ALREADY, I LOVE IT, I THINK WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS ON RESURGENCE LMAO
Lol, yep thats me
I see yeah. I just posted a new chapter last night too.
I didn't listen to the warning you'd think I'd learn my lesson about that after DDLC but I didn't
is there a good ending where we choose leo? am i just missing it or something?
No, there is not.
Its only in fanfiction.
that's really upsetting. i love leo so much. i know chase isn't a player insert type, so there's no reason to think things between me and (bi au) leo would go thusly, but, it still hurts. the "bad" ending is definitely my canon ending, i can't leave him.
Yeah its sad. I like Leo too, he's an interesting and cool character. Chase is cute but they have so many problems! Honestly though they should have given their relationship another chance.
On my way to Echo City !
I'll comment some help here if I got stuck in Echo...welp wish me luck!
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quick question. When downloading it for linux is it normal for it to send you to another site and is it safe to download that way?
Replaced the mediafire download link with an itch.io one. Should fix your issue. - McSkinny
Oh man , I want to play this game but I was too scared . I Played adastra before and I took it so hard , I don't think playing this game is good for my emotions but I want to tryyy !!!
Lately, I've been enamored by zodiacs and horoscopes. Curiously, what are the sun signs of each character? Any objections, discuss.
Leo: Leo? (obviously)
Jenna: Virgo?
Carl: Pisces?
TJ: Libra?
Flynn: Scorpio?
Chase: "some gay otter idk" (Cancer?)
Maybe Spoilers?
Wait does Jenna have a bad ending?? cuz I'm not sure how to get it.
No.
Yes. Youtube.
Yes.
She have bad ending.
You need in mid of her route choose 'this town breaks people' and, this choice locks you in bad ending.
Im not gonna spoiler what will be, just go and see for yourself.
Guys try this song,its perfectly fits to Leo's obsession from chase called "super psycho love by simon curtis"
While listening to it try to imagine leo trying his best to make out with chase the song fits perfectly,i wish someone makes a music video of it...
I swear,if echoproject started making this VN in to a movie its going to make my dream come true and it will be the best of the best movie I've ever watched......if echoproject is planning it for the future I'll be sure to support you guys one day im finished my college and get a job I'll help you guys so my wish will be come true its gonna be so damn worth it,watching it is the only wish i had now in my life before i die ,I'll wait....
I do not agree with turning Echo into a movie. There are just wayyy too many routes and endings to solidify into an hour-and-a-half plot; then, there is the issue of determining what is canon by the developers and sharp criticism from the passionate fandom. If anything, I can see Echo as a Netflix adaptation making vol.1 have a mix of good and bad endings for half the characters and vol.2 another mix for the rest of the crew.
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You Know, at a point, Carl tells you that he has a job interview on Friday. But then why does it happen on Saturday? Is this something that is known and ignored by the writers or....? I don't know. Could someone please explain?
Before reading this VN i got happy,enjoy and inloved but.....after reading it....suddenly idk whats going on i just feel numb..like got a huge depression and anxiety or something i just dont understand what makes that VN change me or idk........and the part it makes me want to read it all again....the voice or sam was right....i will be back,he knew that I'd be back....
i feel you. Same thing happened to me. It will pass. Honestly some routes stuck to me more than others. Especially Leo’s route. There is so much symbolism and it just speaks to me. “Echo is a bad place, but Leo is a comfort. Do you let yourself sink like an anchor and stay in the place that makes you miserable? Or do you catch that last train ride out of this hell hole?” That is so my life. I hate where I am but I stayed because of the few comforts. It really really bugged me to change my situation (but for reasons I actually cant. So that train out of here is just a tease for me that I cant actually reach, sadly).
Yes me too, i choose the bad ending cus i want him hes my comfort even tho we didn't escaped echo atleast hes there for me he helped my injury from the train at the moment he took care of me we feel comfortable each other we get to be together again he loves me so much and i love him so much either also i don't want to leave leo alone heartbroken became depressed for all his life i felt so bad leaving him like that being depressed before and........i dont care about echo......as long as leo is with me im fine,im happy im comfortable.he will protect me.....he will always be there for me....i wont let him be sad or depressed ever again.....hes love is warm.......theres is a happily ever after at the bad endings.....
hello! i just finished plaing adastra and wanted to play echo.
in wich order should i play the game? a few people said Carl>Leo>Jenna>TJ>Flynn but some people say that i should play it in TJ>Leo>Flynn>Jenna>Carl, in wich order should i play the game? :)
Someone said that Carl -> Leo -> Jenna -> TJ -> Flynn is the official orders from devs
How do i join the discord ;w;
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damn,.......samuel.......i feel bad for him.....said that Samuel has a family contact or point contac outside state after chase reported his name to the system and i dont think Samuel has a family but maybe a people who knows him??....poor samuel just died alone on the roadside buried....this VN is full of tragedies that's how i love it
was Jenna species retconed?
her earlier sprites make her look like a fennec fox a she was refer to as such in earlier uptates, but her later designs make her like a kit fox which makes more sense since fennec foxes are native to north Africa while kit foxes are native to western north America including Utah, however the wiki just list her species as "desest fox ", can anyone explain what happened?
Fox.
hiya guys, can i ask which route after carl and leo should i pick next. I see some comments that said i should follow a certain pattern of routes because of how some mysteries from the past routes are revealed. Some say jenna>tj>flynn but others say tj>flynn>jenna, mainly because something about jenna's route being the better ending. I dont mind a having the worst ending, i just wanted to play echo how the author wants us to play. So im open to suggesions
Carl -> Leo -> Jenna -> TJ -> Flynn
Carl>Leo>TJ>Flynn>Jenna thats the order in which each route was finished
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So my take away from Flynns ending other than it being extremely sad is that Flynn doesn't become socket face that appears in other routes. It's more of a vague time traveling in the sense that he's experiencing events that the socket face was there for whether it's some state of limbo or Flynn is actually there is kept ambiguous and could most likely be both in some scenarios. What leads me to believe this is that you are given the choice to kill Salem, brain, or Keith. The thing is brain is still alive in echo so is Salem until the very end and dies in a different but similar way so it doesn't make sense for there to be an option for you to have a choice here. Along with how weirdly dream like that scenario was with the tv and salem acting funny but what we do know is that this has happened in before in some way, keith did die other wise Flynn wouldn't have any reason to be seeing this it has to be some kind of created dreamlike scenario that has some truth to it. I also notice how Flynns transformation was inconsistent, Tj describes the monster as "3 holes, 2 for the eyes, 1 for the mouth" (flynn also has control in this scene) but flynn's eyes pop when he tries to see what happend to Sydney which was after tj saw socket face and he's blinded but later is able to see a younger jenna. Speaking of TJ flynns route is only one where he mentions he saw socket face and recognizes it in the car scene "its real!?" but in Leos route he doesn't even recognize it "what was that!? what was that!?". The ending is really confusing and ambiguous for a reason so it's fine to come up with your own conclusions.
Killing Salem/Brian/Keith lead to different routes, for example if you will decide to kill Brian you will get Leo route IN Flynn route, etc. for others.
Flynn doesn't have to have any reason to kill any character, he is already a monster changed by histeria, don't expect from him being this gila we knew.
Socket monster is able to travel through time, he is and isn't everywhere and in everyone routes and lives (I confused myself writing this one, I dont speak english, leme explain more: at the very same time he is at the lake when Syd got killed, when Jenna was upset and sad etc.)
In Leo's route lynx is confused instead of shocked, because he went through breakdown, he is broken to the core and in Flynn's he is more stable (that's why he catch more from monster)
Hope it has sense and that I helped :)
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Can we get upvotes for potentially new Echo merch please?
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Is anyone else having trouble installing the APK for the Android version?
Bruhs, look at the TV screen...Echoverse already has Adastra as a TV series!
Can someone help me where to get Jenna theme soundtrack in the game? I tried multiples times and couldn't find it anywhere
Last time I played this was a long time ago and leo had no good endings imo. And he still doesn't I assume but since the game is finished might as well play the other routes now.
how do you get " Moth" is the last song of the soundtrack for me to unlock
it's in jenna's bad ending
Are there any important differences when choosing talk to Daxton/Leo in Flynn's route?
leo acts differently depending on who you talk to and some scenes are different
Tbh,for me the bad ending from leo is good ending for me cus we can finally be together again and i rlly love it they way he said "you said we work something out" at the bad ending and i feel like theres nothing wrong they get to be together again so? I dont see he will die staying at echo forever with leo hes love is genuine and the ending? They cuddle,kiss, and f*ck again happy ending.......im crazy h*rny at leo?,yea i am...
Dude.......u need someone to explain to you im speechless now bye-----
(SPOILERS AHEAD. AVERT YOUR EYES IF YOUVE NOT FINISHED LEOS ROUTE).
I think you should read this VN not in the sense that youre trying to date one of the characters, but view those characters as having a flaw that you struggle with, and conquering it by playing it out through this VN. For example the MC views Leo as an anchor that is trying to hold him down in this town he doesnt love (he admits it to himself in the 1st or 2nd hallucination). Staying with Leo in this town is obviously not what the Otter wants, even though Leo is such a comfort to be around. It isn't healthy for him and he must take the opportunity that only comes once (the train) to move on from the mistake of his past (murdering Sydney) or be stuck here forever (like having your legs taken away).... In the past they wrote fairytales of a young unwise woman falling in love with an obvious tramp, and as punishment she has to spend the rest of her unhappy life cleaning a home of a person that abuses her. Leos route is kind of a retelling of that fairytale and the moral is to move on and dont let a few comforts hold you down and trap you in a place of suffering. And in a sense Leo has to stop obsessing over the MC. That's his flaw he needs to get over. He didnt drag MC to bed all bloody like that cuz he was in love with him. He did that because he was in love with the idea of being with him and it was turning him crazy. I guess it is because of the trauma of loosing Sydney that he views others as objects instead that need to be possessed rather than people and risk having genuine feelings towards them. He doesn't want to feel that pain again I guess.
I didn't read Jenna's route but all of the characters seem to have a 'flaw' with them. Quite common flaws that me or you might have actually. And reading through their routes will help you find them and in most cases you can steer them away from the bad route and instead guide them to conquering their flaws. Thats at least the way I think when I read this VN. It is quite a emotionally difficult read for me unless I take a more clinical approach...
Well put bro. Well put.
Spoilers Down Below
Yeah, Jenna DOES have a flaw and she admits it to everyone at the end of her good ending
So your type of romance/kink is equivalent to jisatsu by shinkansen...?
Dude!!! What were you READING?!!!. WHERE WERE YOUR EYES EXACTLY? 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
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CHASE LOST BOTH HIS FEET AND FREAKING BLED TO DEATH IN THAT ENDING!!!!! AND IT WAS LEO WHO FREAKING CAUSED IT!!! NOT TO MENTION THAT HE FUCKING KILLED KUDZU!!!🥺🥺🥺
WORSE PART IS LEO DIDNT EVEN TAKE HIM TO THE HOSPITAL . HE JUST KEPT CHASE IN HIS HOUSE LIKE SOME PROPERTY OF HIS THAT HE ALWAYS THOUGHT CHASE TO BE; CUDDLING AND AND KISSING CHASE WHILE HE SLOWLY KEPT LOSING BLOOD AND HIS SANITY 😔
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I know, I know, I'm sorry. I just really didn't like that ending
everyone always pronounces Leo's name as "lee-oh" but since he's hispanic shouldn't his name be pronouced "leh-oh"?
He has the heart of a lion, so Lee-HO for me. I know a kid name Leh-oh, sooo...obviously, I don't want to make subconscious references by accident; it also doesn't help me that he is also Hispanic...
Tldr; there is no "should" but to each their own in pronouncing his name. Either works, whatever is comfortable for you.
I like how he's name reminds me Cyberpunk 2077, because Judy Alvarez
Leo Alvarez, kinda strange but damn cool haha