Spoilers for echo and the very beginning of the smoke room
Oh my god when Sam gets ran over by Sydney’s dad and he says “Jack” even if Mr. Bronson and Janice rightfully understand it as “use the f*ing jack to get me out of here” he’s totally thinking about the dude he murdered, huh…
Yea, there is the little chance that maybe we will see someone in Arches, it would be entertaining even more, cause none of Echo routes is actually "main", so creators could make completely different route
This has been the first thing in quite a long time that's kept me up all night because I couldn't put it down. After playing Adastra and wanting to see more from its creators, I've absolutely fallen in love with Echo. The more realistic setting, art, and so on complement the stress, tension, and terror in a crucial way. Chase is also a vastly more interesting character than the player character of Adastra (who functioned mostly as a blank slate for the player to project onto), which I've enjoyed a lot. The choices in Echo also seem to be hugely more meaningful than the ones in Adastra. Similarly to Adastra, the characters and lore are nuanced, interesting, and lovable. Overall, it's been a pretty amazing experience and I'm glad I checked it out. ❤️🦦
i feel you, this is the first time closing echo in 4 days(since i downloaded it) and it brought me pain to close it, im only two routes through but i wholeheartedly agree that this game is a masterpiece! ❤️
If you don't like using this, then I suggest finding another app that you'd prefer. You know, just in case a Portuguese version isn't released. Cause I don't see any language settings in this VN
OK, so I've been seeing arguments on multiple sites (including reddit and apparently here as well) concerning which route is the most fitting to read last; Flynn or TJ? I keep seeing different opinions. What do you guys think? I wanna read it through without revealing anything to myself too soon till the end.
It actually doesn't realy matter if you did Leo's first, because they don't reveal very important informations to the whole universum. I believe that Carl's is first bc his route is the least nerve wracking and won't end on your mental breakdown. The note Echo can be an emotionally intense experience and may not be for everyone. Please put your mental well-being first and take this into consideration before downloading! is not a joke or just a warning because for exaple there is one scene with drunk creep. For many people, like realy many this game is realy hard to go through.
You should also know that Carl, Leo and Jenna have 2 routes (TJ and Flynn only 1)
Oh, I was already aware about all this(everything you mentioned but the drunk creep part). It's just that I'm kind of an obsessed perfectionist. If I had read Leo first then found out later that Carl was the first route that was mentioned by Mcskinny, (even though it's no problem at all) it would bother me. For some reason, my pen pal tells me it's because I'm blood type A
oh you got me wrong, "drunk creep" was just first think that pop in my head about "disturbing things" that might be emotional disturbing or whatever... without spoilling anything to other comment readers
My point was to just tell that the plot, amount of emotions and fcked up things in this game is enormous and it is Very Probably that most of the people will be disturbed, especially the more fragile people like me.
Closure huh?🤔. Yeah I remember a lot of people saying that they were unsatisfied with Flynn's route as an ending. But I also remember multiple people saying that no route is good enough for closure and that non of them are necessarily canon anyway 🤷♂. Who else has an opinion? I'm still reading Leo's route so I've got some time before Finally deciding.
Actually I decided to play Jenna route as the last one as well, but not bc it well closure whole story, but bc i heard that it has "good ending" and I don't want to say goodbye to Echo with the nerve wracking routes like Flynn and TJ :)
I haven't played Jenna yet and I don't realy want to no matter If she realy has A ending, I don't belive anyone will be happy but I will find courage and go through... somehow
I'm gonna do jenna's route last just so I don't finish the VN with a bad ending. Based on what little I've heard about Flynn's ending, it's not the kind of story you'd want to end with. So I'll have to keep my inner perfectionist at bay.
Hey guys, considering that this VN labels itself as a "horror" visual novel, can I expect any jumpscares along the way? I don't really do too well with jumpscares but at the same time I am really hoping to try this game out for all the things I've been hearing about it.
The Jumpscares are usually done with sudden dreadful music. So yeah.... that can add to the effect of the Unexpected scary situation. So Brace yourself
ok i played through this game for the first time rn and i am super confused, i guess i went on flynn's route? i am so confused my mind is going crazy trying to understand whats going on, i'll play more on other routes to try and understand better i guess
edit: ok i went through leo's route and i am heart broken i am so sad i will never recover from this
......holy fuck. I've been meaning to play this for like ever and finally got to it. I played the smoke room first though because its still in dev and it took me less time, same emotional investment though.... but back on this I did Leo's route first. massive regrets, but also none whatsoever because he made me feel things I've not felt in a while and gave some.... newer perspectives and such. this is by far one of the most intense VN's I'll ever play, in the best way. my heart ached at how that route ended up but it was better than.... the other situation. I almost cried for the first time in years, which made me happy because it just made me realize how attached I became to this story and everyone involved in it. I was scared for a bit about some things, that ended up being baseless but still worried me. I've also got to do a ton more things if I'm gonna get anything figured out on some mysteries in this, or google things if I don't want my heart torn apart again. still genuinely curious about some major things, like everything involving Sydney, I got a guess or 3 on what happened but I have to replay to figure out if anything has any ground to build on or if its even touched at all!... but on a little different note this has become my absolute favorite visual novel of all time. purely because if how good It's written and how intrigued I was. well still am but eh, and thank you for sharing echo with the world and giving me a god damn amazing experience.
Can someone please tell me at what points I am able to choose each character's routes. HOW and WHEN do I choose Leo's, Carl's, Jeena's, Flynn and TJ's route? I want to play the routes in this order So I need help knowing what to do to choose a specific character's route.
I want to try this VN. I heard fantastic reviews about it and it seems to make nearly everyone cry their eyes out lol. Also, i just finished "Adastra" and seeing as how this VN is also made by the same Echo Project Team, i think i'll love the emotional experience in this one as well !
One thing however, is that i see some people say that "Echo" is not as centered around romance as "Adastra" or "The Smoke Room" for example. Is this true ? I am a great sucker for drama and especially romance..and seeing as how you can follow multiple routes in this VN, it'll be wonderful if someone can provide me with an accurate answer as to whether if i should dial my "romance-expectations" down or not before playing this game.
That is a good question to ask! Some go into this VN thinking it is romance-related, when it is quite not.
It is definitely not as romance-centered as Adastra or TSR. In fact, a lot of it subverts dating sim expectations and does purposeful fan-disservice. (Not saying it like it's a bad thing; I find it as a very good thing, as we need more non-romance furry VNs out there.) It is moreso horror and story related as opposed to romance related. :] I hope this helps!
After finishing the main game, Route 65 and Benefits, all I can say is: 11/10 game, wish I could completely wreck myself emotionally for the first time with this again lol. Also, save TJ and Flynn for last for maximum effect.
Got me curious though, is there a place name Echo and it's reference in real life. What happened to the mane, how it's abandon, whatever happen is really happened in real life.
So I really hate asking these kinds of things because I'd rather find it out myself, but... could someone help me with Jenna's bad ending? Like, what choices do I need to pick precisely? I've tried every option I could think of over the course of a dozen hours but for some reason I just keep getting her good ending, and I'm sure I'm messing up somewhere, but I've no clue where. :')
Edit: no idea what I did different on try #13, but it somehow worked... This thing's full of surprises
There's two separate questions she asks at one point, to get her bad ending you need to give a specific answer to both of them, otherwise you get the good ending.
Aye, I think that's where I went wrong somehow. I did choose those specific answers, but still had the good ending for some reason. I figured that maybe it was because of me picking "bi" instead of "gay" all the way back at the theme park, but I've honestly no idea.
Thanks. I did manage to get to her bad ending somehow eventually, but to my knowledge I didn't do anything different from my other try before that, though I probably just did do it wrong.
Now I haven't read this VN yet, but I need a forewarning.. how emotional would this make me. I hate to say it but im a very emotional/fragile person and get really invested in stories, I just finished Adastra and spent an hour crying about it : |. Without spoiling anything, would I be essentially broken by the end of this VN?
You can't compare those two games if we are talking about emotions, it's completely different level of sadness
Don't get me wrong, this is the best VN I have played so far (only Arches can compare in my opinion, which is sequel to Echo ironically) and I fully recomend you play this but if you are too emotional... it would be wise to stay away.
The Smoke Room - Echo's prequel + in development, great game but there is a lot of sex scenes, like... a LOT. Despite that I would recomend it to you, it expands and explains a few Echo events, also game is not yet in a place where it would rapes emotionally someone so it would be smart to play it first.
Khemia / Interea - Adastra sequel / Amicus's honeymoon + both in development. If you haven't check them out then you know what to do:)
Arches - Echo's sequel + in development. Tbh, if you are REALY willing to try Echo and you are not sure if you are ready then you could play this game, it is very emotional, also scary, but it won't change your head like Echo would. I mean this game is just frigin sad, when Echo literally affect you
(it all sounds scary and I know that, I am fragile too and i didn't give a s*** about creators note up there about how this game is emotionall and I ended up ... well ... Im trying to be better person... because of game... lil phatetic of me. Im writting this directly to you, because it is obvious that on everyone it affect diferently, but if you are sensitive then I m gonna say that this's one of those games where creators are not kidding about how strong game is)
PS: sry for my English (its not my language), I hope all of this makes sense :)
thank you so much for helping me like this, and it made complete sense. I'll try The Smoke Room first and then see if I can move onto the others. I've already played through the first update of Interea and I thought it was meant to be updated yesterday but im not sure. Yet again im so thankful for your help : )
Hey, first I wanna say this VN is the best one I've played yet - both storywise and artwise they are absolutely fantastic. So as to the latter I have a really stupid question.
I've played through the game a few times now, and each time am stunned by how beautiful the in-game artwork is (sprites aside, those are fantastic too, but the portraits/paintings always make me pause for a while just to gawk at them).
I guess my question is, is there any way to download them for use as wallpapers (through Patreon, a feature on this website maybe, or anything else)?
Sorry if I'm being shortsighted or obtuse or anything, but I'm genuinely curious.
About Carl's route, I loved the whole James / John plot and how it was told through letters / newspapers. And the ending was very satisfying to see Carl taking a turn in life.
About Leo's route: I'm not going to lie that I'm 28 yo and I'm sitting in the chair with tears streaming down my face because that ending attacked all the triggers that I didn't even know I had. I spent hours thinking about it and reflecting on the life that I just couldn't get to sleep. All that depressing vibe in the end and the soundtrack hit me so hard. Something about me just wanted Leo to have a happy ending (even if it was a cliche), even if it was something like "he left Echo and went to live in Payton after taking the train", although he was still alone, but that ending hurt a lot .
I discovered the world of VN not so long ago, so there are still many great stories to know, but even before I played all the routes I needed to come here to make an addendum on how incredible the story is being and how heavy this ending is it can be for some people. (What I think is the intention haha)
So I wanted to go ahead or congratulate everyone involved in this story that I am loving and I hope I finish soon. But not now, because I really need to pull myself together after Leo’s end.
Same here, games like that hurt even more if you experienced similar events. In my case for exaple i had a friend for 12 years ( we were 7-19 y old), he was dick but actually we found out a lot in common,he was my best friend, but through years he got worse even if he didnt mean it, he liked me but I just was sick of his behaviour so last year i stopped to talk to him out of blue after one of our argue...
It was shity of me and I knew it, but I had to go out of it somehow, go out from this relationship that became toxic and started affect both of us. I acted just like Chase, who abandoned best friend bc he wasnt a person he knew his whole life instead of trying to figured out how to repair friendship.
Both of us had our problems and made mistakes but despite my friend was shity af he helped me a lot and tried to rapair this situation for few months... ofc I was dead silence...
I only ever though about myself but after playing damn PC game I became wondering what HE might think after what I did. It was like bucket of cold water right in the face, now I have no idea what to do but i KNOW that I will try repait this as well... I hope...
I wish I could say that I went through something similar to make sense that I felt so much. I had two boyfriends in my life, the first we had a really friendly breakup and the second I am still dating for about 5 years, my oldest friend is my neighbor so we still have contact even though much less when we were children (my fault for basically being a socially disabled person haha). So I really found myself thinking "why did it hurt me so much? Am I missing something? I went through something like this and didn't notice?" I hope it's just my good side wanting a happy ending for everyone. Because something that made me cry (a person who basically just shed tears because of dead people) has to have a reason.
I wish you would NEVER went through something like that, tbh noone should.
Unfortunately life is tough and things like that just happens, people are different and I know that both of us weren't pure and perfect, he was a dick and I was (actually I still am) selfish bastard.
The circumstances that I found true about myself is just sad and a little humiliating, I just played a game, furry game, nothing more... better late than never I guess.
On the other hand I have never realy loved anyone yet. So I can't imagine how this must hurt, I simply hope it is't worse that losing your life best friend whom you knew your whole life.
"Sometimes life is a bitch and you keep living" quot from my "favourite" show. Be strong my friend! You are not alone.
I would love to be able to read those fanfics, honestly, what language is it in? Nothing similar happened to me (I think), but even so I cried a lot with Leo's route and, even to this day (I finished it a few months ago), it still makes me feel "bad" for poor Leo
It's all in English. Also if you read them, I have to warn you I kinda got carried away and made it a crossover with my own stories and characters... Anyway its on archive of our own.
Just finished TJs route, man what a roller-coaster. I really love the soundtrack in the the epilogue it just complements the emotions of the scene, it is really amazing great choice devs
That was my first route as well. Just finished it this evening...was not expecting that. Right in the feels so I understand your comments pretty good. Hugs friend lol.
Ok. I'll play the whole game and when i'll get to finish the translation, I'll send it to you someway. You can choose to do whatever u want with it. Tnx for the answer.
I have no words to describe how wonderful and sad this game is. After ending both Leo's rutes i had to just sit and think about my damn life (20 y old btw) and I wont play it for probably next whole week before i will be able to get a grip. What is funny I can assume from comments that others routes are as "good" as my first one :)
I know that those games influence diffrently on on everyone but in my case... there is no word, just clap clap.
Great job guys, marvelous game, characters and storytelling!
Love from Poland
Um so Im interested in playing the VN but before installing it says that if the VN could modify or delete and read the contents in my SD card. I've downloaded other VNs and none of them asked me this. Should I be worried?
Alright, I've been trying for a while now to install the android version. My connection is pretty slow, so I've also tried several times on a faster connection elsewhere, but the result is the same.
"App not installed" whenever I try to install the apk.
I'm on a Samsung J7 Pro. Is the problem on my end?
If you're looking to read, it's fantastic. All of the characters are very well written and the ways they act make sense once you get the bigger picture. Now that I've said this..
DO NOT READ OTHER COMMENTS IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED AND CARE ABOUT SPOILERS.
This comment section really needs to be cleaned up / turned into a discussion board. I've had a few friends get spoiled on some big plot points now because of all the talk down here.
The split is very clear, right after Flynn yells at everyone early on, make a save right there. You can do them in any order, TJ and Leo's are both good ones to start with. There are not many choices that affect endings, and it's pretty easy to make more saves at those points.
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Spoilers for echo and the very beginning of the smoke room
Oh my god when Sam gets ran over by Sydney’s dad and he says “Jack” even if Mr. Bronson and Janice rightfully understand it as “use the f*ing jack to get me out of here” he’s totally thinking about the dude he murdered, huh…
Is there some kind of a list with all choices in the game and their consequences somewhere? It could really help me a lot
To be honest I don't think you will need it, Jenna, Carl and Leo has 2 routes and they are easy to made (only one choice that define route)
Nevertheless if you want to know I will write it down so if you don't want to read it don't click "View rest"
Jenna route: We kept each other sane/ This town break people (this one is actually tricky cause this choice is in the middle of a game)
Leo: the very last choice ( that's easy )
Carl: Fight it/ Let it help us (that's in the middle of the game too, but this one is kinda obvious to my mind)
Hope I helped :)
Man, I have not ever played such a unique and excellent vn before! Now I hope I can find something as great as this again!
I really do hope we get to see the characters in the future somehow
Yea, there is the little chance that maybe we will see someone in Arches, it would be entertaining even more, cause none of Echo routes is actually "main", so creators could make completely different route
This has been the first thing in quite a long time that's kept me up all night because I couldn't put it down. After playing Adastra and wanting to see more from its creators, I've absolutely fallen in love with Echo. The more realistic setting, art, and so on complement the stress, tension, and terror in a crucial way. Chase is also a vastly more interesting character than the player character of Adastra (who functioned mostly as a blank slate for the player to project onto), which I've enjoyed a lot. The choices in Echo also seem to be hugely more meaningful than the ones in Adastra. Similarly to Adastra, the characters and lore are nuanced, interesting, and lovable. Overall, it's been a pretty amazing experience and I'm glad I checked it out. ❤️🦦
i feel you, this is the first time closing echo in 4 days(since i downloaded it) and it brought me pain to close it, im only two routes through but i wholeheartedly agree that this game is a masterpiece! ❤️
I wanted a Portuguese version, it's very difficult to read, I'm not fluent in English, please, if you can, put it in portuguese
Use this for translation.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.recognize_text.translate.scree...
If you don't like using this, then I suggest finding another app that you'd prefer. You know, just in case a Portuguese version isn't released. Cause I don't see any language settings in this VN
OK, so I've been seeing arguments on multiple sites (including reddit and apparently here as well) concerning which route is the most fitting to read last; Flynn or TJ? I keep seeing different opinions. What do you guys think? I wanna read it through without revealing anything to myself too soon till the end.
McSkinny said that you should play as the last one Flynn route, but it is realy hard to say.
This is his order to follow Carl -> Leo -> Jenna -> TJ -> Flynn
If you don't want to follow it there is nothing bad, but if you want to expierience it fully then you know what to do :)
As long as Mcskinny said so himself, then that's what I'll follow. Thanks.
I was gonna do Leo first but ended up choosing Carl first instead. Glad I did.
But on what website did he recommend this reading order? Also, is there an official discord server?
https://discord.gg/ZUqdbhVG there you go buddy
It actually doesn't realy matter if you did Leo's first, because they don't reveal very important informations to the whole universum. I believe that Carl's is first bc his route is the least nerve wracking and won't end on your mental breakdown. The note Echo can be an emotionally intense experience and may not be for everyone. Please put your mental well-being first and take this into consideration before downloading! is not a joke or just a warning because for exaple there is one scene with drunk creep. For many people, like realy many this game is realy hard to go through.
You should also know that Carl, Leo and Jenna have 2 routes (TJ and Flynn only 1)
Oh, I was already aware about all this(everything you mentioned but the drunk creep part). It's just that I'm kind of an obsessed perfectionist. If I had read Leo first then found out later that Carl was the first route that was mentioned by Mcskinny, (even though it's no problem at all) it would bother me. For some reason, my pen pal tells me it's because I'm blood type A
Thanks for the link.😁
oh you got me wrong, "drunk creep" was just first think that pop in my head about "disturbing things" that might be emotional disturbing or whatever... without spoilling anything to other comment readers
My point was to just tell that the plot, amount of emotions and fcked up things in this game is enormous and it is Very Probably that most of the people will be disturbed, especially the more fragile people like me.
sry for misleading you :/
Actually, you should play in this order. Carl -> Leo -> TJ -> Flynn -> Jenna, since Jenna route is the most fitting route to END with closure.
Closure huh?🤔. Yeah I remember a lot of people saying that they were unsatisfied with Flynn's route as an ending. But I also remember multiple people saying that no route is good enough for closure and that non of them are necessarily canon anyway 🤷♂. Who else has an opinion? I'm still reading Leo's route so I've got some time before Finally deciding.
I said only what creators said about routes order
Actually I decided to play Jenna route as the last one as well, but not bc it well closure whole story, but bc i heard that it has "good ending" and I don't want to say goodbye to Echo with the nerve wracking routes like Flynn and TJ :)
I haven't played Jenna yet and I don't realy want to no matter If she realy has A ending, I don't belive anyone will be happy but I will find courage and go through... somehow
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Well I've made my decision then.:
I'm gonna do jenna's route last just so I don't finish the VN with a bad ending. Based on what little I've heard about Flynn's ending, it's not the kind of story you'd want to end with. So I'll have to keep my inner perfectionist at bay.
Thanks guys 😊
Hey guys, considering that this VN labels itself as a "horror" visual novel, can I expect any jumpscares along the way? I don't really do too well with jumpscares but at the same time I am really hoping to try this game out for all the things I've been hearing about it.
The Jumpscares are usually done with sudden dreadful music. So yeah.... that can add to the effect of the Unexpected scary situation. So Brace yourself
Nahhhh there's no cheap jumpscares, just a build up anxiety no ghost jumping in your face.
ok i played through this game for the first time rn and i am super confused, i guess i went on flynn's route? i am so confused my mind is going crazy trying to understand whats going on, i'll play more on other routes to try and understand better i guess
edit: ok i went through leo's route and i am heart broken i am so sad i will never recover from this
edit2: had a mental breakdown over leo GOD DAMMIT
......holy fuck. I've been meaning to play this for like ever and finally got to it. I played the smoke room first though because its still in dev and it took me less time, same emotional investment though.... but back on this I did Leo's route first. massive regrets, but also none whatsoever because he made me feel things I've not felt in a while and gave some.... newer perspectives and such. this is by far one of the most intense VN's I'll ever play, in the best way. my heart ached at how that route ended up but it was better than.... the other situation. I almost cried for the first time in years, which made me happy because it just made me realize how attached I became to this story and everyone involved in it. I was scared for a bit about some things, that ended up being baseless but still worried me. I've also got to do a ton more things if I'm gonna get anything figured out on some mysteries in this, or google things if I don't want my heart torn apart again. still genuinely curious about some major things, like everything involving Sydney, I got a guess or 3 on what happened but I have to replay to figure out if anything has any ground to build on or if its even touched at all!... but on a little different note this has become my absolute favorite visual novel of all time. purely because if how good It's written and how intrigued I was. well still am but eh, and thank you for sharing echo with the world and giving me a god damn amazing experience.
This is By Far THE BEST vn besides Adastra! Though its so Heart wrenching, i can get overwhelmed and just take a break..But i LOVE this Gem so much!!
Can someone please tell me at what points I am able to choose each character's routes. HOW and WHEN do I choose Leo's, Carl's, Jeena's, Flynn and TJ's route? I want to play the routes in this order So I need help knowing what to do to choose a specific character's route.
Hope this isn't a difficult question 😳
it's the argument scene
you mean the part where Flynn starts "downtalking " everyone?
I want to try this VN. I heard fantastic reviews about it and it seems to make nearly everyone cry their eyes out lol. Also, i just finished "Adastra" and seeing as how this VN is also made by the same Echo Project Team, i think i'll love the emotional experience in this one as well !
One thing however, is that i see some people say that "Echo" is not as centered around romance as "Adastra" or "The Smoke Room" for example. Is this true ? I am a great sucker for drama and especially romance..and seeing as how you can follow multiple routes in this VN, it'll be wonderful if someone can provide me with an accurate answer as to whether if i should dial my "romance-expectations" down or not before playing this game.
That is a good question to ask! Some go into this VN thinking it is romance-related, when it is quite not.
It is definitely not as romance-centered as Adastra or TSR. In fact, a lot of it subverts dating sim expectations and does purposeful fan-disservice. (Not saying it like it's a bad thing; I find it as a very good thing, as we need more non-romance furry VNs out there.) It is moreso horror and story related as opposed to romance related. :] I hope this helps!
After finishing the main game, Route 65 and Benefits, all I can say is: 11/10 game, wish I could completely wreck myself emotionally for the first time with this again lol.
Also, save TJ and Flynn for last for maximum effect.
Got me curious though, is there a place name Echo and it's reference in real life. What happened to the mane, how it's abandon, whatever happen is really happened in real life.
Also i love the game i get really emotional is the first route i choose. Which is Loe routine, and I'm so sad about it's ending..
And got me surprise thought they didn't end up in a good relationship, and good break-up.
It's very loosely based off of Echo, Utah, a town of 50 just northeast of Salt Lake City. The VN is actually mentioned in Echo, UT's Wikipedia page.
Oh! Thank you.
A video you might be interested.
When was echo started ?
Jun 04, 2019
It might be 2015, since that was the date referenced at the end of TJ's route, and the credits said "over the past 6 years".
First off,
-POTENTIAL SPOILERS-
So I really hate asking these kinds of things because I'd rather find it out myself, but... could someone help me with Jenna's bad ending? Like, what choices do I need to pick precisely? I've tried every option I could think of over the course of a dozen hours but for some reason I just keep getting her good ending, and I'm sure I'm messing up somewhere, but I've no clue where. :')
Edit: no idea what I did different on try #13, but it somehow worked... This thing's full of surprises
There's two separate questions she asks at one point, to get her bad ending you need to give a specific answer to both of them, otherwise you get the good ending.
Aye, I think that's where I went wrong somehow. I did choose those specific answers, but still had the good ending for some reason. I figured that maybe it was because of me picking "bi" instead of "gay" all the way back at the theme park, but I've honestly no idea.
Basically, be as negative as you can while talking to Jenna while walking in Tetanus Alley.
I.e. Agree with her that people can't be helped who don't want to be, and respond "this town breaks people" to the following choice.
Thanks. I did manage to get to her bad ending somehow eventually, but to my knowledge I didn't do anything different from my other try before that, though I probably just did do it wrong.
Wait, so what order are the Echo games supposed to be played in
First playthrough, went with Flynn because I thought "eh, why not?"
I am going to cry now.
Now I haven't read this VN yet, but I need a forewarning.. how emotional would this make me. I hate to say it but im a very emotional/fragile person and get really invested in stories, I just finished Adastra and spent an hour crying about it : |. Without spoiling anything, would I be essentially broken by the end of this VN?
Um, in terms of sadness I think Echo beats adastra by an extreme amount!
I'm a good ways through, and damn there's so much heartbreak.
Yeah! There really is!
Wait until the endings... So sad and bittersweet... Inspired me and many others to create fanfiction endings!
Don't play this game, realy, not yet.
You can't compare those two games if we are talking about emotions, it's completely different level of sadness
Don't get me wrong, this is the best VN I have played so far (only Arches can compare in my opinion, which is sequel to Echo ironically) and I fully recomend you play this but if you are too emotional... it would be wise to stay away.
Okay, I really like the author's work, would any of their other VNs be a little more manageable?
Well... there is not many games tbh:
Adastra - released + you have played it
The Smoke Room - Echo's prequel + in development, great game but there is a lot of sex scenes, like... a LOT. Despite that I would recomend it to you, it expands and explains a few Echo events, also game is not yet in a place where it would rapes emotionally someone so it would be smart to play it first.
Khemia / Interea - Adastra sequel / Amicus's honeymoon + both in development. If you haven't check them out then you know what to do:)
Arches - Echo's sequel + in development. Tbh, if you are REALY willing to try Echo and you are not sure if you are ready then you could play this game, it is very emotional, also scary, but it won't change your head like Echo would. I mean this game is just frigin sad, when Echo literally affect you
(it all sounds scary and I know that, I am fragile too and i didn't give a s*** about creators note up there about how this game is emotionall and I ended up ... well ... Im trying to be better person... because of game... lil phatetic of me. Im writting this directly to you, because it is obvious that on everyone it affect diferently, but if you are sensitive then I m gonna say that this's one of those games where creators are not kidding about how strong game is)
PS: sry for my English (its not my language), I hope all of this makes sense :)
thank you so much for helping me like this, and it made complete sense. I'll try The Smoke Room first and then see if I can move onto the others. I've already played through the first update of Interea and I thought it was meant to be updated yesterday but im not sure. Yet again im so thankful for your help : )
Yo, btw, if it is not a problem, do let me/us know if you will or no play Echo itself.
I am kinda curious if you would like it <3
This VN is a masterpiece!
But.. Leo.. Why tho?
Is it just me or did I just love him too much that I don't wanna leave him alone? :')
I guess I'm gonna sulk myself for a bit eh, how he feels in both ending kinda reminds me of my past tho.
Yes, Echo is a masterpiece!
Yeah... Why did you do that Leo?...
Leo should have gotten a second chance...
I sulked for a while too after Leo endings, lol!
Then I created my own Leo endings!
https://archiveofourown.org/series/2191440
There if you want to read.
wow, I'd love to! Thank you XD
Your welcome and I hope you like it.
Hey, first I wanna say this VN is the best one I've played yet - both storywise and artwise they are absolutely fantastic. So as to the latter I have a really stupid question.
I've played through the game a few times now, and each time am stunned by how beautiful the in-game artwork is (sprites aside, those are fantastic too, but the portraits/paintings always make me pause for a while just to gawk at them).
I guess my question is, is there any way to download them for use as wallpapers (through Patreon, a feature on this website maybe, or anything else)?
Sorry if I'm being shortsighted or obtuse or anything, but I'm genuinely curious.
step by step:
1. open main file with game (in my case this file is named Echo-1.00-pc)
2. you will see 4 folders with files, click one named "game"
3. you will see 5 folders with files, click one named "images"
and there are all photos :)
Thank you so much! :D
Hey, does someone know if there is any way of playing this on iPad??
I finished Carls and Leo Route.
>Problaly Spoiler<
About Carl's route, I loved the whole James / John plot and how it was told through letters / newspapers. And the ending was very satisfying to see Carl taking a turn in life.
About Leo's route: I'm not going to lie that I'm 28 yo and I'm sitting in the chair with tears streaming down my face because that ending attacked all the triggers that I didn't even know I had. I spent hours thinking about it and reflecting on the life that I just couldn't get to sleep. All that depressing vibe in the end and the soundtrack hit me so hard. Something about me just wanted Leo to have a happy ending (even if it was a cliche), even if it was something like "he left Echo and went to live in Payton after taking the train", although he was still alone, but that ending hurt a lot .
I discovered the world of VN not so long ago, so there are still many great stories to know, but even before I played all the routes I needed to come here to make an addendum on how incredible the story is being and how heavy this ending is it can be for some people. (What I think is the intention haha)
So I wanted to go ahead or congratulate everyone involved in this story that I am loving and I hope I finish soon. But not now, because I really need to pull myself together after Leo’s end.
Same here, games like that hurt even more if you experienced similar events. In my case for exaple i had a friend for 12 years ( we were 7-19 y old), he was dick but actually we found out a lot in common,he was my best friend, but through years he got worse even if he didnt mean it, he liked me but I just was sick of his behaviour so last year i stopped to talk to him out of blue after one of our argue...
It was shity of me and I knew it, but I had to go out of it somehow, go out from this relationship that became toxic and started affect both of us. I acted just like Chase, who abandoned best friend bc he wasnt a person he knew his whole life instead of trying to figured out how to repair friendship.
Both of us had our problems and made mistakes but despite my friend was shity af he helped me a lot and tried to rapair this situation for few months... ofc I was dead silence...
I only ever though about myself but after playing damn PC game I became wondering what HE might think after what I did. It was like bucket of cold water right in the face, now I have no idea what to do but i KNOW that I will try repait this as well... I hope...
I wish I could say that I went through something similar to make sense that I felt so much. I had two boyfriends in my life, the first we had a really friendly breakup and the second I am still dating for about 5 years, my oldest friend is my neighbor so we still have contact even though much less when we were children (my fault for basically being a socially disabled person haha). So I really found myself thinking "why did it hurt me so much? Am I missing something? I went through something like this and didn't notice?" I hope it's just my good side wanting a happy ending for everyone. Because something that made me cry (a person who basically just shed tears because of dead people) has to have a reason.
I wish you would NEVER went through something like that, tbh noone should.
Unfortunately life is tough and things like that just happens, people are different and I know that both of us weren't pure and perfect, he was a dick and I was (actually I still am) selfish bastard.
The circumstances that I found true about myself is just sad and a little humiliating, I just played a game, furry game, nothing more... better late than never I guess.
On the other hand I have never realy loved anyone yet. So I can't imagine how this must hurt, I simply hope it is't worse that losing your life best friend whom you knew your whole life.
"Sometimes life is a bitch and you keep living" quot from my "favourite" show. Be strong my friend! You are not alone.
I felt the same after Leos route. It was so sad, that it inspired me to write my own fanfiction about alternate Leo route endings!
I would love to be able to read those fanfics, honestly, what language is it in? Nothing similar happened to me (I think), but even so I cried a lot with Leo's route and, even to this day (I finished it a few months ago), it still makes me feel "bad" for poor Leo
Oh, hello!
It's all in English. Also if you read them, I have to warn you I kinda got carried away and made it a crossover with my own stories and characters...
Anyway its on archive of our own.
https://archiveofourown.org/series/2191440
Start with multiverse then resurgence and then catastrophe
They all will be tied together.
O_O
You definitely put a lot work into it, I will read it for sure and will get you know what i think :)
tytytyty
PS: you said it is all in English, soo I assume you don't writing in your native language, do you?
Yeah, I sure have.
Sounds good, I hope you like it.
Oh, English is my native language.
well, it took me more time to finally get into it, but I finally started reading :) hehe
Oh thats fine and I hope you like it. I kinda got carried away...
Just finished TJs route, man what a roller-coaster. I really love the soundtrack in the the epilogue it just complements the emotions of the scene, it is really amazing great choice devs
That was my first route as well. Just finished it this evening...was not expecting that. Right in the feels so I understand your comments pretty good. Hugs friend lol.
Is there a way to help with translation? (For free in my language: italian)
Does anyone know how to contact the owner of the game? I'd really like to translate the game while i play it
You're welcome to do your own translation, though we're currently not supporting any official translation effort.
- McSkinny
Ok. I'll play the whole game and when i'll get to finish the translation, I'll send it to you someway. You can choose to do whatever u want with it. Tnx for the answer.
Is there a route for Leo?
how many endings dose this game have ?
8. Tj and flynn have one, while leo jenna and Carl have two. There's also a few sudden death endings.
ok thanks for the info
just bought the gang stands from pawprint press feeling good
Just finished Leo's route and I think I made the right choice. Still, it hurts like hell. It's so heartbreaking.
Yes, it is a truly well written story!
It got me thinking about a lot of things too!
Leo's route endings and Flynn's route ending really made me sad!
It inspired me to start a massive Echo fanfiction series that I'm still writing.
Um so Im interested in playing the VN but before installing it says that if the VN could modify or delete and read the contents in my SD card. I've downloaded other VNs and none of them asked me this. Should I be worried?
Nope. It's the same Ren'py engine you've probably played on in other VN's before.
- McSkinny
Ugh Flynn deserves so much better I love him ;-;
I love this game so much.
also this song with leo's good ending fits so well it's unreal
Me, foolishly: "well, I like Flynn and this is a visual novel with gay characters, so I'll do his route!"
Me, at end credits: "Wow! I'm gonna throw up!"
Bro, how could they do us like that ;-;
he so did not deserve that, poor guy :'(
Alright, I've been trying for a while now to install the android version. My connection is pretty slow, so I've also tried several times on a faster connection elsewhere, but the result is the same.
"App not installed" whenever I try to install the apk.
I'm on a Samsung J7 Pro. Is the problem on my end?
Try installing app in download folder, not by tapping install after it finished downloading.
Nope, still doesn't work.
Maybe you don't have enough space
okay so
im kind haveing a problem to where i cant even start it i extracted it and everything also i have renpy
I started with TJ route 😑. But, I guess I'm fine with that (a little bit sad).
If you're looking to read, it's fantastic. All of the characters are very well written and the ways they act make sense once you get the bigger picture. Now that I've said this..
DO NOT READ OTHER COMMENTS IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED AND CARE ABOUT SPOILERS.
This comment section really needs to be cleaned up / turned into a discussion board. I've had a few friends get spoiled on some big plot points now because of all the talk down here.
Does anyone have a walkthrough cuz I want to try all the endings but it will take so much time :((
The split is very clear, right after Flynn yells at everyone early on, make a save right there. You can do them in any order, TJ and Leo's are both good ones to start with. There are not many choices that affect endings, and it's pretty easy to make more saves at those points.