I want to try this VN. I heard fantastic reviews about it and it seems to make nearly everyone cry their eyes out lol. Also, i just finished "Adastra" and seeing as how this VN is also made by the same Echo Project Team, i think i'll love the emotional experience in this one as well !
One thing however, is that i see some people say that "Echo" is not as centered around romance as "Adastra" or "The Smoke Room" for example. Is this true ? I am a great sucker for drama and especially romance..and seeing as how you can follow multiple routes in this VN, it'll be wonderful if someone can provide me with an accurate answer as to whether if i should dial my "romance-expectations" down or not before playing this game.
That is a good question to ask! Some go into this VN thinking it is romance-related, when it is quite not.
It is definitely not as romance-centered as Adastra or TSR. In fact, a lot of it subverts dating sim expectations and does purposeful fan-disservice. (Not saying it like it's a bad thing; I find it as a very good thing, as we need more non-romance furry VNs out there.) It is moreso horror and story related as opposed to romance related. :] I hope this helps!
After finishing the main game, Route 65 and Benefits, all I can say is: 11/10 game, wish I could completely wreck myself emotionally for the first time with this again lol. Also, save TJ and Flynn for last for maximum effect.
Got me curious though, is there a place name Echo and it's reference in real life. What happened to the mane, how it's abandon, whatever happen is really happened in real life.
So I really hate asking these kinds of things because I'd rather find it out myself, but... could someone help me with Jenna's bad ending? Like, what choices do I need to pick precisely? I've tried every option I could think of over the course of a dozen hours but for some reason I just keep getting her good ending, and I'm sure I'm messing up somewhere, but I've no clue where. :')
Edit: no idea what I did different on try #13, but it somehow worked... This thing's full of surprises
There's two separate questions she asks at one point, to get her bad ending you need to give a specific answer to both of them, otherwise you get the good ending.
Aye, I think that's where I went wrong somehow. I did choose those specific answers, but still had the good ending for some reason. I figured that maybe it was because of me picking "bi" instead of "gay" all the way back at the theme park, but I've honestly no idea.
Thanks. I did manage to get to her bad ending somehow eventually, but to my knowledge I didn't do anything different from my other try before that, though I probably just did do it wrong.
Now I haven't read this VN yet, but I need a forewarning.. how emotional would this make me. I hate to say it but im a very emotional/fragile person and get really invested in stories, I just finished Adastra and spent an hour crying about it : |. Without spoiling anything, would I be essentially broken by the end of this VN?
You can't compare those two games if we are talking about emotions, it's completely different level of sadness
Don't get me wrong, this is the best VN I have played so far (only Arches can compare in my opinion, which is sequel to Echo ironically) and I fully recomend you play this but if you are too emotional... it would be wise to stay away.
The Smoke Room - Echo's prequel + in development, great game but there is a lot of sex scenes, like... a LOT. Despite that I would recomend it to you, it expands and explains a few Echo events, also game is not yet in a place where it would rapes emotionally someone so it would be smart to play it first.
Khemia / Interea - Adastra sequel / Amicus's honeymoon + both in development. If you haven't check them out then you know what to do:)
Arches - Echo's sequel + in development. Tbh, if you are REALY willing to try Echo and you are not sure if you are ready then you could play this game, it is very emotional, also scary, but it won't change your head like Echo would. I mean this game is just frigin sad, when Echo literally affect you
(it all sounds scary and I know that, I am fragile too and i didn't give a s*** about creators note up there about how this game is emotionall and I ended up ... well ... Im trying to be better person... because of game... lil phatetic of me. Im writting this directly to you, because it is obvious that on everyone it affect diferently, but if you are sensitive then I m gonna say that this's one of those games where creators are not kidding about how strong game is)
PS: sry for my English (its not my language), I hope all of this makes sense :)
thank you so much for helping me like this, and it made complete sense. I'll try The Smoke Room first and then see if I can move onto the others. I've already played through the first update of Interea and I thought it was meant to be updated yesterday but im not sure. Yet again im so thankful for your help : )
Hey, first I wanna say this VN is the best one I've played yet - both storywise and artwise they are absolutely fantastic. So as to the latter I have a really stupid question.
I've played through the game a few times now, and each time am stunned by how beautiful the in-game artwork is (sprites aside, those are fantastic too, but the portraits/paintings always make me pause for a while just to gawk at them).
I guess my question is, is there any way to download them for use as wallpapers (through Patreon, a feature on this website maybe, or anything else)?
Sorry if I'm being shortsighted or obtuse or anything, but I'm genuinely curious.
About Carl's route, I loved the whole James / John plot and how it was told through letters / newspapers. And the ending was very satisfying to see Carl taking a turn in life.
About Leo's route: I'm not going to lie that I'm 28 yo and I'm sitting in the chair with tears streaming down my face because that ending attacked all the triggers that I didn't even know I had. I spent hours thinking about it and reflecting on the life that I just couldn't get to sleep. All that depressing vibe in the end and the soundtrack hit me so hard. Something about me just wanted Leo to have a happy ending (even if it was a cliche), even if it was something like "he left Echo and went to live in Payton after taking the train", although he was still alone, but that ending hurt a lot .
I discovered the world of VN not so long ago, so there are still many great stories to know, but even before I played all the routes I needed to come here to make an addendum on how incredible the story is being and how heavy this ending is it can be for some people. (What I think is the intention haha)
So I wanted to go ahead or congratulate everyone involved in this story that I am loving and I hope I finish soon. But not now, because I really need to pull myself together after Leo’s end.
Same here, games like that hurt even more if you experienced similar events. In my case for exaple i had a friend for 12 years ( we were 7-19 y old), he was dick but actually we found out a lot in common,he was my best friend, but through years he got worse even if he didnt mean it, he liked me but I just was sick of his behaviour so last year i stopped to talk to him out of blue after one of our argue...
It was shity of me and I knew it, but I had to go out of it somehow, go out from this relationship that became toxic and started affect both of us. I acted just like Chase, who abandoned best friend bc he wasnt a person he knew his whole life instead of trying to figured out how to repair friendship.
Both of us had our problems and made mistakes but despite my friend was shity af he helped me a lot and tried to rapair this situation for few months... ofc I was dead silence...
I only ever though about myself but after playing damn PC game I became wondering what HE might think after what I did. It was like bucket of cold water right in the face, now I have no idea what to do but i KNOW that I will try repait this as well... I hope...
I wish I could say that I went through something similar to make sense that I felt so much. I had two boyfriends in my life, the first we had a really friendly breakup and the second I am still dating for about 5 years, my oldest friend is my neighbor so we still have contact even though much less when we were children (my fault for basically being a socially disabled person haha). So I really found myself thinking "why did it hurt me so much? Am I missing something? I went through something like this and didn't notice?" I hope it's just my good side wanting a happy ending for everyone. Because something that made me cry (a person who basically just shed tears because of dead people) has to have a reason.
I wish you would NEVER went through something like that, tbh noone should.
Unfortunately life is tough and things like that just happens, people are different and I know that both of us weren't pure and perfect, he was a dick and I was (actually I still am) selfish bastard.
The circumstances that I found true about myself is just sad and a little humiliating, I just played a game, furry game, nothing more... better late than never I guess.
On the other hand I have never realy loved anyone yet. So I can't imagine how this must hurt, I simply hope it is't worse that losing your life best friend whom you knew your whole life.
"Sometimes life is a bitch and you keep living" quot from my "favourite" show. Be strong my friend! You are not alone.
I would love to be able to read those fanfics, honestly, what language is it in? Nothing similar happened to me (I think), but even so I cried a lot with Leo's route and, even to this day (I finished it a few months ago), it still makes me feel "bad" for poor Leo
It's all in English. Also if you read them, I have to warn you I kinda got carried away and made it a crossover with my own stories and characters... Anyway its on archive of our own.
Just finished TJs route, man what a roller-coaster. I really love the soundtrack in the the epilogue it just complements the emotions of the scene, it is really amazing great choice devs
That was my first route as well. Just finished it this evening...was not expecting that. Right in the feels so I understand your comments pretty good. Hugs friend lol.
Ok. I'll play the whole game and when i'll get to finish the translation, I'll send it to you someway. You can choose to do whatever u want with it. Tnx for the answer.
I have no words to describe how wonderful and sad this game is. After ending both Leo's rutes i had to just sit and think about my damn life (20 y old btw) and I wont play it for probably next whole week before i will be able to get a grip. What is funny I can assume from comments that others routes are as "good" as my first one :)
I know that those games influence diffrently on on everyone but in my case... there is no word, just clap clap.
Great job guys, marvelous game, characters and storytelling!
Love from Poland
Um so Im interested in playing the VN but before installing it says that if the VN could modify or delete and read the contents in my SD card. I've downloaded other VNs and none of them asked me this. Should I be worried?
Alright, I've been trying for a while now to install the android version. My connection is pretty slow, so I've also tried several times on a faster connection elsewhere, but the result is the same.
"App not installed" whenever I try to install the apk.
I'm on a Samsung J7 Pro. Is the problem on my end?
If you're looking to read, it's fantastic. All of the characters are very well written and the ways they act make sense once you get the bigger picture. Now that I've said this..
DO NOT READ OTHER COMMENTS IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED AND CARE ABOUT SPOILERS.
This comment section really needs to be cleaned up / turned into a discussion board. I've had a few friends get spoiled on some big plot points now because of all the talk down here.
The split is very clear, right after Flynn yells at everyone early on, make a save right there. You can do them in any order, TJ and Leo's are both good ones to start with. There are not many choices that affect endings, and it's pretty easy to make more saves at those points.
after finishing the Flynn route I kind of want a Sydney route. No, I do not know exactly what I mean except for the fact that I want more of the adult!Sydney character.
Hi! I'm new to this game and I've read that there are multiple routes that are linked to the understanding of the story, but separated as there are totally different endings. I was wandering if there is an actual more suitable sequence of route to take that fits better the approach to the story, hopefully made by the author himself. I'd appreciate a user comment too with his/her suggestions on which route order to follow WITHOUT SPOILERS. I'm ok not knowing why i should do one route before another one.
Unfortunately I started with TJ and then followed the sequence. I guess I robbed myself of the reveal about Sydney's death. I think the author should put a little footnote in the description of the game, about the most optimal way to play.
I think that it’s most important to follow your interests. Each route has a major reveal that makes the routes replayable so that you can see the hints. That being said, I went Carl, Flynn, Tj, Leo, Jenna.
Can someone explain who and/or what is the red monster in this VN!?
Is the monster that hit the car and the one in the mine, the same as the red monster (are they all the same monster or different monsters)?
I've played all routes multiple times and i have some theory's but I'd like some confirmation. Like i think flynn is the red monster because of his ending. And the red monster can bend space-time to some extant.
Its hard to tell. I think the one in the mine is the same, its described differently because when they made that scene, they didn't have artwork for it yet.
There are other monsters in Echo, but the red sockface appears the most. And yes Flynn is the monster.
there is one last question i forgot to put there; Was chase, samuel or the hum (while controlling chase's body) that killed sydney? Like, the time he killed Flynn there was a moment where he wasnt in control anymore. Was that samuel or the hum making him lose it in Tj's route. That conversation in the bathroom is what makes me question it.
thanks for the confirmation btw. This has been in my mind for some time now. I wanted to go into Arches without any doughts, so its nice to get all those questions out of the way. Thanks again
It appeared to me to be a combination of Chase hating Sydney and being influenced by the entity he spoke to in the mirror I believe it influenced him to kill Sydney in the same way it did Flynn
The red monster is Flynn. Specifically Flynn from his route. The idea is that basically at the end of Flynn's route he became one with the Tide, which is basically the pattern in how the hysteria works. Tide rolls in when some kind of murder happens, rolls out when the hysteria is over. Notice how Flynn at the end of his route is showing up at specifically negative moments in character's past. He was in Jennas closet when hiding from her abusive father etc. Basically, the monster shows up when any sort of negative action occurs. Its a problem specific to the town for some presently unexplained reason, but there are theories. The monster isnt bending space time, space time is bending him. Every time the tide rolls out a piece of him is taken, not just mentally. Thats why the monster looks like beef jerky, he's being taken apart peice by peice until he is nothing, one with the tide. The monster in all routes is flynn from his route as the tide covers all routes simultaneously. To summarize, Flynn turns into the monster and then is dragged into other routes throughout different periods of time.
wow thanks, thats a really good explanation but what about the bleeding monster from the road and the heart monster from the mine? Are they pieces of flynn; other people like Flynn; or just monsters?
How many endings are there in all? I’ve played through everyone’s route once and wanna experience everything this vn has to offer, but I’m not sure who’s routes have a second ending and who’s doesn’t, if someone knows I would greatly appreciate it!! <3
Hey so, my problem is the opposite - I can't seem to get her bad ending somehow... Which choices do I need to make to get there? Because honestly I've gone through as many as I can think of and all I've gotten is the good ending.
Is there a canon ending to this story? And will there be a echo 2: electric bugaloo? I know about smoke room, but seeing this VN (that i love and waited for each update like a leo wanting to get in chase's pants) end makes me sad and only hope/wonder if there will be any sequel.
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I want to try this VN. I heard fantastic reviews about it and it seems to make nearly everyone cry their eyes out lol. Also, i just finished "Adastra" and seeing as how this VN is also made by the same Echo Project Team, i think i'll love the emotional experience in this one as well !
One thing however, is that i see some people say that "Echo" is not as centered around romance as "Adastra" or "The Smoke Room" for example. Is this true ? I am a great sucker for drama and especially romance..and seeing as how you can follow multiple routes in this VN, it'll be wonderful if someone can provide me with an accurate answer as to whether if i should dial my "romance-expectations" down or not before playing this game.
That is a good question to ask! Some go into this VN thinking it is romance-related, when it is quite not.
It is definitely not as romance-centered as Adastra or TSR. In fact, a lot of it subverts dating sim expectations and does purposeful fan-disservice. (Not saying it like it's a bad thing; I find it as a very good thing, as we need more non-romance furry VNs out there.) It is moreso horror and story related as opposed to romance related. :] I hope this helps!
After finishing the main game, Route 65 and Benefits, all I can say is: 11/10 game, wish I could completely wreck myself emotionally for the first time with this again lol.
Also, save TJ and Flynn for last for maximum effect.
Got me curious though, is there a place name Echo and it's reference in real life. What happened to the mane, how it's abandon, whatever happen is really happened in real life.
Also i love the game i get really emotional is the first route i choose. Which is Loe routine, and I'm so sad about it's ending..
And got me surprise thought they didn't end up in a good relationship, and good break-up.
It's very loosely based off of Echo, Utah, a town of 50 just northeast of Salt Lake City. The VN is actually mentioned in Echo, UT's Wikipedia page.
Oh! Thank you.
A video you might be interested.
When was echo started ?
Jun 04, 2019
It might be 2015, since that was the date referenced at the end of TJ's route, and the credits said "over the past 6 years".
First off,
-POTENTIAL SPOILERS-
So I really hate asking these kinds of things because I'd rather find it out myself, but... could someone help me with Jenna's bad ending? Like, what choices do I need to pick precisely? I've tried every option I could think of over the course of a dozen hours but for some reason I just keep getting her good ending, and I'm sure I'm messing up somewhere, but I've no clue where. :')
Edit: no idea what I did different on try #13, but it somehow worked... This thing's full of surprises
There's two separate questions she asks at one point, to get her bad ending you need to give a specific answer to both of them, otherwise you get the good ending.
Aye, I think that's where I went wrong somehow. I did choose those specific answers, but still had the good ending for some reason. I figured that maybe it was because of me picking "bi" instead of "gay" all the way back at the theme park, but I've honestly no idea.
Basically, be as negative as you can while talking to Jenna while walking in Tetanus Alley.
I.e. Agree with her that people can't be helped who don't want to be, and respond "this town breaks people" to the following choice.
Thanks. I did manage to get to her bad ending somehow eventually, but to my knowledge I didn't do anything different from my other try before that, though I probably just did do it wrong.
Wait, so what order are the Echo games supposed to be played in
First playthrough, went with Flynn because I thought "eh, why not?"
I am going to cry now.
Now I haven't read this VN yet, but I need a forewarning.. how emotional would this make me. I hate to say it but im a very emotional/fragile person and get really invested in stories, I just finished Adastra and spent an hour crying about it : |. Without spoiling anything, would I be essentially broken by the end of this VN?
Um, in terms of sadness I think Echo beats adastra by an extreme amount!
I'm a good ways through, and damn there's so much heartbreak.
Yeah! There really is!
Wait until the endings... So sad and bittersweet... Inspired me and many others to create fanfiction endings!
Don't play this game, realy, not yet.
You can't compare those two games if we are talking about emotions, it's completely different level of sadness
Don't get me wrong, this is the best VN I have played so far (only Arches can compare in my opinion, which is sequel to Echo ironically) and I fully recomend you play this but if you are too emotional... it would be wise to stay away.
Okay, I really like the author's work, would any of their other VNs be a little more manageable?
Well... there is not many games tbh:
Adastra - released + you have played it
The Smoke Room - Echo's prequel + in development, great game but there is a lot of sex scenes, like... a LOT. Despite that I would recomend it to you, it expands and explains a few Echo events, also game is not yet in a place where it would rapes emotionally someone so it would be smart to play it first.
Khemia / Interea - Adastra sequel / Amicus's honeymoon + both in development. If you haven't check them out then you know what to do:)
Arches - Echo's sequel + in development. Tbh, if you are REALY willing to try Echo and you are not sure if you are ready then you could play this game, it is very emotional, also scary, but it won't change your head like Echo would. I mean this game is just frigin sad, when Echo literally affect you
(it all sounds scary and I know that, I am fragile too and i didn't give a s*** about creators note up there about how this game is emotionall and I ended up ... well ... Im trying to be better person... because of game... lil phatetic of me. Im writting this directly to you, because it is obvious that on everyone it affect diferently, but if you are sensitive then I m gonna say that this's one of those games where creators are not kidding about how strong game is)
PS: sry for my English (its not my language), I hope all of this makes sense :)
thank you so much for helping me like this, and it made complete sense. I'll try The Smoke Room first and then see if I can move onto the others. I've already played through the first update of Interea and I thought it was meant to be updated yesterday but im not sure. Yet again im so thankful for your help : )
Yo, btw, if it is not a problem, do let me/us know if you will or no play Echo itself.
I am kinda curious if you would like it <3
This VN is a masterpiece!
But.. Leo.. Why tho?
Is it just me or did I just love him too much that I don't wanna leave him alone? :')
I guess I'm gonna sulk myself for a bit eh, how he feels in both ending kinda reminds me of my past tho.
Yes, Echo is a masterpiece!
Yeah... Why did you do that Leo?...
Leo should have gotten a second chance...
I sulked for a while too after Leo endings, lol!
Then I created my own Leo endings!
https://archiveofourown.org/series/2191440
There if you want to read.
wow, I'd love to! Thank you XD
Your welcome and I hope you like it.
Hey, first I wanna say this VN is the best one I've played yet - both storywise and artwise they are absolutely fantastic. So as to the latter I have a really stupid question.
I've played through the game a few times now, and each time am stunned by how beautiful the in-game artwork is (sprites aside, those are fantastic too, but the portraits/paintings always make me pause for a while just to gawk at them).
I guess my question is, is there any way to download them for use as wallpapers (through Patreon, a feature on this website maybe, or anything else)?
Sorry if I'm being shortsighted or obtuse or anything, but I'm genuinely curious.
step by step:
1. open main file with game (in my case this file is named Echo-1.00-pc)
2. you will see 4 folders with files, click one named "game"
3. you will see 5 folders with files, click one named "images"
and there are all photos :)
Thank you so much! :D
Hey, does someone know if there is any way of playing this on iPad??
I finished Carls and Leo Route.
>Problaly Spoiler<
About Carl's route, I loved the whole James / John plot and how it was told through letters / newspapers. And the ending was very satisfying to see Carl taking a turn in life.
About Leo's route: I'm not going to lie that I'm 28 yo and I'm sitting in the chair with tears streaming down my face because that ending attacked all the triggers that I didn't even know I had. I spent hours thinking about it and reflecting on the life that I just couldn't get to sleep. All that depressing vibe in the end and the soundtrack hit me so hard. Something about me just wanted Leo to have a happy ending (even if it was a cliche), even if it was something like "he left Echo and went to live in Payton after taking the train", although he was still alone, but that ending hurt a lot .
I discovered the world of VN not so long ago, so there are still many great stories to know, but even before I played all the routes I needed to come here to make an addendum on how incredible the story is being and how heavy this ending is it can be for some people. (What I think is the intention haha)
So I wanted to go ahead or congratulate everyone involved in this story that I am loving and I hope I finish soon. But not now, because I really need to pull myself together after Leo’s end.
Same here, games like that hurt even more if you experienced similar events. In my case for exaple i had a friend for 12 years ( we were 7-19 y old), he was dick but actually we found out a lot in common,he was my best friend, but through years he got worse even if he didnt mean it, he liked me but I just was sick of his behaviour so last year i stopped to talk to him out of blue after one of our argue...
It was shity of me and I knew it, but I had to go out of it somehow, go out from this relationship that became toxic and started affect both of us. I acted just like Chase, who abandoned best friend bc he wasnt a person he knew his whole life instead of trying to figured out how to repair friendship.
Both of us had our problems and made mistakes but despite my friend was shity af he helped me a lot and tried to rapair this situation for few months... ofc I was dead silence...
I only ever though about myself but after playing damn PC game I became wondering what HE might think after what I did. It was like bucket of cold water right in the face, now I have no idea what to do but i KNOW that I will try repait this as well... I hope...
I wish I could say that I went through something similar to make sense that I felt so much. I had two boyfriends in my life, the first we had a really friendly breakup and the second I am still dating for about 5 years, my oldest friend is my neighbor so we still have contact even though much less when we were children (my fault for basically being a socially disabled person haha). So I really found myself thinking "why did it hurt me so much? Am I missing something? I went through something like this and didn't notice?" I hope it's just my good side wanting a happy ending for everyone. Because something that made me cry (a person who basically just shed tears because of dead people) has to have a reason.
I wish you would NEVER went through something like that, tbh noone should.
Unfortunately life is tough and things like that just happens, people are different and I know that both of us weren't pure and perfect, he was a dick and I was (actually I still am) selfish bastard.
The circumstances that I found true about myself is just sad and a little humiliating, I just played a game, furry game, nothing more... better late than never I guess.
On the other hand I have never realy loved anyone yet. So I can't imagine how this must hurt, I simply hope it is't worse that losing your life best friend whom you knew your whole life.
"Sometimes life is a bitch and you keep living" quot from my "favourite" show. Be strong my friend! You are not alone.
I felt the same after Leos route. It was so sad, that it inspired me to write my own fanfiction about alternate Leo route endings!
I would love to be able to read those fanfics, honestly, what language is it in? Nothing similar happened to me (I think), but even so I cried a lot with Leo's route and, even to this day (I finished it a few months ago), it still makes me feel "bad" for poor Leo
Oh, hello!
It's all in English. Also if you read them, I have to warn you I kinda got carried away and made it a crossover with my own stories and characters...
Anyway its on archive of our own.
https://archiveofourown.org/series/2191440
Start with multiverse then resurgence and then catastrophe
They all will be tied together.
O_O
You definitely put a lot work into it, I will read it for sure and will get you know what i think :)
tytytyty
PS: you said it is all in English, soo I assume you don't writing in your native language, do you?
Yeah, I sure have.
Sounds good, I hope you like it.
Oh, English is my native language.
well, it took me more time to finally get into it, but I finally started reading :) hehe
Oh thats fine and I hope you like it. I kinda got carried away...
Just finished TJs route, man what a roller-coaster. I really love the soundtrack in the the epilogue it just complements the emotions of the scene, it is really amazing great choice devs
That was my first route as well. Just finished it this evening...was not expecting that. Right in the feels so I understand your comments pretty good. Hugs friend lol.
Is there a way to help with translation? (For free in my language: italian)
Does anyone know how to contact the owner of the game? I'd really like to translate the game while i play it
You're welcome to do your own translation, though we're currently not supporting any official translation effort.
- McSkinny
Ok. I'll play the whole game and when i'll get to finish the translation, I'll send it to you someway. You can choose to do whatever u want with it. Tnx for the answer.
Is there a route for Leo?
how many endings dose this game have ?
8. Tj and flynn have one, while leo jenna and Carl have two. There's also a few sudden death endings.
ok thanks for the info
just bought the gang stands from pawprint press feeling good
Just finished Leo's route and I think I made the right choice. Still, it hurts like hell. It's so heartbreaking.
Yes, it is a truly well written story!
It got me thinking about a lot of things too!
Leo's route endings and Flynn's route ending really made me sad!
It inspired me to start a massive Echo fanfiction series that I'm still writing.
Um so Im interested in playing the VN but before installing it says that if the VN could modify or delete and read the contents in my SD card. I've downloaded other VNs and none of them asked me this. Should I be worried?
Nope. It's the same Ren'py engine you've probably played on in other VN's before.
- McSkinny
Ugh Flynn deserves so much better I love him ;-;
I love this game so much.
also this song with leo's good ending fits so well it's unreal
Me, foolishly: "well, I like Flynn and this is a visual novel with gay characters, so I'll do his route!"
Me, at end credits: "Wow! I'm gonna throw up!"
Bro, how could they do us like that ;-;
he so did not deserve that, poor guy :'(
Alright, I've been trying for a while now to install the android version. My connection is pretty slow, so I've also tried several times on a faster connection elsewhere, but the result is the same.
"App not installed" whenever I try to install the apk.
I'm on a Samsung J7 Pro. Is the problem on my end?
Try installing app in download folder, not by tapping install after it finished downloading.
Nope, still doesn't work.
Maybe you don't have enough space
okay so
im kind haveing a problem to where i cant even start it i extracted it and everything also i have renpy
I started with TJ route 😑. But, I guess I'm fine with that (a little bit sad).
If you're looking to read, it's fantastic. All of the characters are very well written and the ways they act make sense once you get the bigger picture. Now that I've said this..
DO NOT READ OTHER COMMENTS IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED AND CARE ABOUT SPOILERS.
This comment section really needs to be cleaned up / turned into a discussion board. I've had a few friends get spoiled on some big plot points now because of all the talk down here.
Does anyone have a walkthrough cuz I want to try all the endings but it will take so much time :((
The split is very clear, right after Flynn yells at everyone early on, make a save right there. You can do them in any order, TJ and Leo's are both good ones to start with. There are not many choices that affect endings, and it's pretty easy to make more saves at those points.
Is there any good ending in this vn?
Jenna's good ending is the best one, but the other endings all have interesting things, even if there sad or traumatic
after finishing the Flynn route I kind of want a Sydney route. No, I do not know exactly what I mean except for the fact that I want more of the adult!Sydney character.
Hi! I'm new to this game and I've read that there are multiple routes that are linked to the understanding of the story, but separated as there are totally different endings. I was wandering if there is an actual more suitable sequence of route to take that fits better the approach to the story, hopefully made by the author himself. I'd appreciate a user comment too with his/her suggestions on which route order to follow WITHOUT SPOILERS. I'm ok not knowing why i should do one route before another one.
Carl -> Leo -> Jenna -> TJ -> Flynn was the order that McSkinny (writer) agreed with
I thought TJ was the very last and Flynn just before his?
Thanks a lot for the answer! I hope this game is as good as Adastra (maybe even better since there are lots of routes)
Unfortunately I started with TJ and then followed the sequence. I guess I robbed myself of the reveal about Sydney's death. I think the author should put a little footnote in the description of the game, about the most optimal way to play.
I think that it’s most important to follow your interests. Each route has a major reveal that makes the routes replayable so that you can see the hints. That being said, I went Carl, Flynn, Tj, Leo, Jenna.
I was reading that Brazilian otters can be 50% bigger than a normal otter!
lol
Can someone explain who and/or what is the red monster in this VN!?
Is the monster that hit the car and the one in the mine, the same as the red monster (are they all the same monster or different monsters)?
I've played all routes multiple times and i have some theory's but I'd like some confirmation. Like i think flynn is the red monster because of his ending. And the red monster can bend space-time to some extant.
Its hard to tell. I think the one in the mine is the same, its described differently because when they made that scene, they didn't have artwork for it yet.
There are other monsters in Echo, but the red sockface appears the most. And yes Flynn is the monster.
there is one last question i forgot to put there; Was chase, samuel or the hum (while controlling chase's body) that killed sydney? Like, the time he killed Flynn there was a moment where he wasnt in control anymore. Was that samuel or the hum making him lose it in Tj's route. That conversation in the bathroom is what makes me question it.
thanks for the confirmation btw. This has been in my mind for some time now. I wanted to go into Arches without any doughts, so its nice to get all those questions out of the way. Thanks again
It appeared to me to be a combination of Chase hating Sydney and being influenced by the entity he spoke to in the mirror
I believe it influenced him to kill Sydney in the same way it did Flynn
The red monster is Flynn. Specifically Flynn from his route. The idea is that basically at the end of Flynn's route he became one with the Tide, which is basically the pattern in how the hysteria works. Tide rolls in when some kind of murder happens, rolls out when the hysteria is over. Notice how Flynn at the end of his route is showing up at specifically negative moments in character's past. He was in Jennas closet when hiding from her abusive father etc. Basically, the monster shows up when any sort of negative action occurs. Its a problem specific to the town for some presently unexplained reason, but there are theories. The monster isnt bending space time, space time is bending him. Every time the tide rolls out a piece of him is taken, not just mentally. Thats why the monster looks like beef jerky, he's being taken apart peice by peice until he is nothing, one with the tide. The monster in all routes is flynn from his route as the tide covers all routes simultaneously. To summarize, Flynn turns into the monster and then is dragged into other routes throughout different periods of time.
wow thanks, thats a really good explanation but what about the bleeding monster from the road and the heart monster from the mine? Are they pieces of flynn; other people like Flynn; or just monsters?
Are there any NSFW scenes in the game?
Hornyyyyyyy lol. But no there aren't, there are some very explicit scenes but no NSFW illustrations sorry.
If you download previous builds there are NSFW sprites.
Do you know how one can download the previous builds? For research purposes?
Described ones? Yes, like three or four. But nothing in the way of CGs. You play for the plot, and not the ass kind.
Finally! now every route is finished
PS. the NSFW sprites in images are gone TwT
Yeah, kinda sad. I guess since they never used them in the story they just got rid of them.
Aw man
How many endings are there in all? I’ve played through everyone’s route once and wanna experience everything this vn has to offer, but I’m not sure who’s routes have a second ending and who’s doesn’t, if someone knows I would greatly appreciate it!! <3
Flynn and TJ both have one ending, Leo has two bad endings, and Jenna & Carl have one good and one bad ending.
Two bad ending for Leo? I considered it one bad ending and one neutral ending, or do you mean the killed in Dukes house ending?
Yeah, I meant that. I guess calling it neutral makes sense.
I consider the neutral Leo ending to be kinda depressing.
Leo has 3 endings, there's a good ending.
I consider the good ending a neutral ending
Spoiler
Chase gets to be with Kudzu in the good ending, but Leo is left with incredible depression!
it's still the 'good' ending because the protagonist is in a healthier relationship and away from echo i guess lol
How do I get jennas good ending. I only got the flood ending (which I assume is the bad).
When you're walking with her on Thursday, disagree with her opinion on Leo and then choose "we kept each other sane."
Hey so, my problem is the opposite - I can't seem to get her bad ending somehow... Which choices do I need to make to get there? Because honestly I've gone through as many as I can think of and all I've gotten is the good ending.
Try disagreeing with her and choosing "This town breaks people". That's what I did.
is the ending where you go back to college with Carl the good ending for his route?
Yes
Is there a canon ending to this story? And will there be a echo 2: electric bugaloo? I know about smoke room, but seeing this VN (that i love and waited for each update like a leo wanting to get in chase's pants) end makes me sad and only hope/wonder if there will be any sequel.
All the routes and endings are canon and none of them at the same time!
There is a sequel called Arches being made, but it doesn't fallow any of the routes and is completely new characters.