I super appreciate how Devon said that if he lost his relationship with Cameron after they've been together so long it would be "traumatic" like, I feel like that's the perfect word to describe it. It is such a small thing but I've never heard that word used in that context and it really helps strengthen my feelings for Dev and Cam's relationship, I very much hope they both make it out okay and still together
To my mind it is good idea to start with Arches, regardless of Arches being the shortest game so far. (I want everyone to know that I'm not complaining, this VN is in my opinion tough 10/10 with plot, ost and characters) The problem that I had reading Arches was that I knew the main antagonist, some ghosts/spirits and every location, it might sound funny (for me it was xd) but when I was reading it I was like: oh, Cam and Dev are going to the ****, I wonder when they will ******. -5min later- There you go, knew it :)
For many people it might be good actually: to be so familiar with Echo town that you know in advance a lot of things that might happen to the cast even before they will know it, but I don't like spoilers and Echo VN is spoiling a lot. (I am aware that this familiarity could be deliberately implemented by creators, however not everyone has the same tastes.)
Second is Echo, no comment here <3
Third is TSR bc there is a few characters and events that won't ring you any bells. TSR is great in regard to expanding Echo world, but not necessarily learning about it from there.
Again, this is MY opinion why I would go for Arches at first, but if those aspects don't bother you then stick to my short answer up there :)
No matter the order, I'm telling you you won't regret any second spent in this world and that is something that everyone will tell you.
I actually only got into the Echo project games around July when Arches was in Build 2, but it was the game that hooked me on the concept of Echo.
I went into Arches with no prior expectations, so the opening blew me away and made me so curious as to what would happen next. It is really interesting to see the town of Echo in the aftermath of whatever happened in the game Echo, and wonder... What happened?
I then went back to Echo (the game this time) and checked it out and enjoyed it thoroughly, but Arches still has my highest hopes and expectations and IMO still works as a good jumping off point.
However if you prefer there are a couple of other options for how to play the games:
1. Chronologically (In Universe): Start with The Smoke Room (TSR), go on to Echo, and end with Arches. I wouldn't really recommend this as both TSR and Arches are in development so this will be jarring jumping from the middle of TSR into Echo with no clear path to explain how one leads into the other yet (though I assume it will clear up as development progresses). Another issue with this is that both Arches and TSR expect you to have read Echo and mention some items that lead into speculation about how everything ties together.
2. Chronologically (In Real Life): Start with Echo and get a decent baseline for what can occur in these stories. You can supplement it with Route 65 (Highly recommended after Leo's route in Echo) and Benefits, both of which are short reads. From there you can go on to either Arches or TSR, though it is worth mentioning that TSR has a lot more content due to being further along in development. Both are interesting as they both act as sequels to the game of Echo, but act as prequels (TSR) or sequels (Arches) to the events that occur in the game.
3. Reverse Chronology (In Universe): I accidentally played this way, but it works really well to build up suspense and raise the tension of the mystery. In Arches you see the aftermath of whatever happened in Echo and wonder what possibly could have happened. In my playthough of Echo I could only wonder how this small town leads to the horrors I saw in Arches as I went through the everyday lives of Chase and his friends. And then the horror in Echo hits and it starts to explain some of the horrors that Dev and Cam go through in Arches. After completing Echo and Route 65, I moved back to TSR and have enjoyed seeing how the seeds of what happened in Echo and Arches were laid over 100 years ago and see how things could have shaken out differently.
TLDR: I totally agree with Drago, but hey it's fun to think of different reading orders for these novels, kinda like Star Wars watch orders. :)
Thank you so much for the recommendation and explanation of different scenarios. I will definitely think about which one could suit for my expectations as an avid reader. The only thing is that I need to organize myself because I am currently reading more VN , and I would rather finish one first so I can dig into Echo Project xD
Route 65 works best played after completing Leo's route in Echo, but before you play TJ, Flynn or Jenna's routes (as it gives some interesting hints but no outright spoilers as to what is to come for those routes).
The physique in Echo v novels (those in town Echo) are different, in TSR people are the most similar to humans: 5 fingers per hand , men genitals. (well, weird part is that the legs and paws in TSR are actually animalistic, but that s not the point here, you know what I'm saying)
on the other hand in Echo (benefits) we can clearly see the whole animalistic physique: paws instead of hands, paws instead of foots and the most important full animalistic genitalia. I know that from CGs its hard to tell that their whole body resembles more animal than human, but Chase spent some time during inner monologues when he was describing his friends physique and again, dongs are different in either games kek
Finally Arches and again full animalistic physique, however characters have 4 fingers like in cartoons.
To summarize I wouldn't mind the differences in how people body are build in Echo bc it just depends of design creators choose.
Edit: I made extra effort and found Duke spirits in echo and arches (he is the only character that is in both games so far) and he has 5 fingers in Echo and 4 in Arches what only confirms what I wrote :)
So um I just finished build 4 and like bro this VN is making me go through a rollercoaster I swear and the cliff hanger holy shit- ... And now we wait again
Hey, I have a really silly question, because English isn't my first langauge--
Why sometimes in the visual novels, the past perfect tense is being used instead of the simple past tense? Like here:
"The smile of relief on Cameron's face seems to break the dam of emotion in Dev's chest. That wild look he'd had earlier, the one that had looked at him as if he were a stranger is gone. "
Why can't it just be "he had" and "looked"? For me there is simply not another time point in the past in this context that precedes the one associated with the "wild look".
I see this tense use a lot, not just in this visual novel. Please help me understand this, for I'm pretty serious about learning English.
Thank you! (BTW, this visual novel is SO TOTALLY AWESOME, literally the best I've ever played!)
Yo, English is not my first language either so if I am mistaken pls someone correct me.
Past perfect is used when you are talking about thing that lasted (not only happened) in the past and ended in the past. Just like dont uwu me wrote narrator was referring to the very specific event in the past that took place and now it no longer last. Example:
"The smile of relief on Cameron's face seems to break the dam of emotion in Dev's chest. That wild look he had earlier...
this is past simple and the wild look in this one is just a short glare, however Cam was making this face for a long time. There is more to Past Perfect but i am not enough informed to answer. Next one:
... the one that had looked at him as if he were a stranger is gone. "
in this one had is important because if you removed this word you would get this sentence: the one that looked at him as if he were a stranger is gone. Now we got a sentence where someone someone is looking at Cam and we know it is not a point.
I hope it is helpful and I haven't made fool of myself :)
It's just a sublte difference, but the past perfect ties the sentence to a specific event in the past whilst the simple past leaves it open to many interpretions.
I have no clue what caused this but it wasn't creating a log file when it launched. I just downloaded the game again and now its working and making a log file. That is a very weird glitch
Inspired by the game, and after having previously played Echo, I felt inclined to contribute with a potential soundtrack. You guys have no obligation to use it, and I take no offense if you don't feel like it fits in the project. If on the other hand you like it, that's cool, and you can get in touch :)
I don't see a contact email anywhere here, or on Patreon..
Edit: I've been playing Arches with music turned OFF without even realizing there are a bunch of great tracks already. Sorry for the ADD mistake. I think I was playing another Ren Py game and listening to spotify or something, and the settings stayed. The music by Anthemics is really good!
No matter how much you try, you keep coming back to Echo, huh ?
After finishing Echo (and its two sidestories) and playing The Smoke Room, I finally returned to that (not) fabulous city with Arches
I quite like the story and character chemistry so far. I'll might get booed for this but I think Cameron's a bit annoying, on the other hand Devon is adorable (it's also nice to finally see a bear in Echo that is not freaking Brian)
It's strange when you realize that the most sane characters overall in the Echo multiverse are the ones from the Smoke Room
Morale of the story ? Don't do meth kids, do opium.
I kinda get the vibe that we're not seeing Cameron's true personality in this story, I feel like everyone who goes to Echo has their personality warped and exaggerated if that makes sense? Like, it messes up how they react to situations and that messes up how we see the characters. But it does feel like somehow the readers just keep returning to Echo, we're always going in circles after all
Well, if you'r talking about any updates then there was TSR update 2 days ago (for patreon). Alas, Arches had not got yet. If i'm not mistaken creators were moving out and that's why there is a lot of delays.
At this point im very attached to Cameron and Devon,so much so that their relationship and development is the thing I enjoy the most rather than the action,however the action is good as always.
So this game is obviously still unfinished, but I must say, it's super engaging! the plot and storyline pulls you in so quickly. I like the depth behind Cameron and Devon, and this whole psychic thing reminds me a lot of Chase. Looking forward to updates, and hoping there's a way to achieve a good ending. I'm attached to the characters already ^w^
i had to create new account to comments about this game , character design looking good , theme , game hub looking good. but the main story over here is too suffocation i mean is about ghost , drugs , im legit ok with it , but it's too much , like is happened again and again , its make characters and story line goes crazy and overwhelming.
One thing I'm noticing here is the absolute detail with the characters. When we know in detail about the characters thoughts and feelings, the characters and story begin to feel immersive.
Yea, it is not very common that we know whole backstory of each character from the beginning, but it really help with understanding their feelings, decisions they make and reactions. As a readers we don't have to suspect what the second one think, cause we have whole perspective from both characters.
omg I wrote riders instead of readers and someone read it, its so embarrassing
first i thought that was AltNicaragua because Arthuro refers to the sonoran flag as "azul y blanco" but then it was pointed out to me that Sonora comes from the sonoran desert which would mean that Sonora is AltMexico, so which is it ?
Arturo doesn't refer to Sonoran flag in his dialogue - it's Devon who mentions it, making a comparison to what Artie said (going something like "...people here don't know what that flag is - but if I were to mount a Sonoran flag on the other hand...").
Sonora is a Mexican state, is near the top left part of Mexico and is a border state to the U.S. , and it doesn't have a flag per se, but it does have a unique seal, like every Mexican state.
I know that as a matter of fact it is quite new game, but i wonder if or when will be Arches merch. Are there any ideas of making anything in the future?
As a lot of people already said, Arches is its standalone thing, so there's a chance it won't even follow any of Echo's routes. You may be right, however. We'll see in due time!
i'll have to wait till i play arches though, i installed it yesterday night while i was going through leo's route and for what ever reason it installed the wrong platform variant of the game XD
Честно говоря, это хорошее начало для интересной и атмосферной игры. Буду смотреть за продолжением Сюжета игры и поддерживать Финансово на patreon.... sooooooo cute:)
А кто тут гг-то? если, в Эхо был Чейз, то у меня что-то в голове не укладывается картина кто МОЖЕТ БЫТЬ ТУТ учитывая, что это отдельная история но основанная на событиях ПОСЛЕ Эхо.
I'm not trying to rush anyone. But please are we getting a another chapter. This game was getting very good. Its so hard waiting, y'all make amazing games
April 22 was 122 days ago. If part 2 came out 68 days from part 1, then we can expect part 3 in 2 weeks from now. Hopefully it will come out sooner. Maybe it will come out later. All the same, when it does we will be thrilled! (Sorry for the pun).
According to the Twitter account, Build 3 was released to Patreon on August 14th. It is likely that we will see the public release for Build 3 soon (Maybe this weekend or next hopefully).
i mean rushed things dont come out good i rather them take a long time for it to be good. its not like their gonna abandon it just be paitent, having a deadline/schedule creates pressure sometimes.
i wonder if were gonna see anything about sam and his gang instead of chase and his gang? or maybe more in depth on the murder and what sams attacker was thinking before and after he died?
Nah this is about different people and Leo moved after the events of echo, so he shouldn't be in this as more than maybe a picture in his old house or a cameo.
darn, i was hoping he would be, since the characters from this make a cameo at the end of his """good""" ending, i figured that meant he'd still be in town while they're here
Are you sure? Arches doesn't follow any Echo routes, Leo, Flynn and Carl would still be in town. (unless it is somewhere written that they left Echo, then my bad)
However I doubt we will see Leo, it's not his story after all (I wish we would see him though *sob* ... poor wolfy)
It’s actually unclear since Arches doesn’t really come after any of the Echo routes, so it’s just as possible possible some of the gang may be in town as them having all left.
Leo might have moved in with his parents in Payton where his father gave him the mechanic job there. Chase, Jenna, and TJ might have returned to college/stayed in college (MA/MS/Ph.D. track). Carl might have found work in Payton/given college another try. Flynn might have passed away after contracting STD's from engaging in TSR unprotected; at least he'll finally be with Sydney. Like Echo routes, anything is a possibility within the multiverse which explains how socket face travels across space, time, and dimensions.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Leo a psychopathic person? Like he killed his friend and didn't even try to save his ex from dying slowly. he also used him sexually while he was still bleeding slowly. I'm sorry if i hurt anyone but to me Leo is sick and twisted. I used to have a crush on him as i read the novel. It made me so surprised Leo would EVER do something so... evil like that.
that was under the influence of the Mass Hysteria Event, which exacerbates everyone's worst traits. killing the friend i think you're talking about was because he saw him as a threat to chase (leo's overprotectiveness and possessiveness), and he did try to stop the bleeding, but after that he refused to acknowledge there was still a problem (his avoidant tendencies). as for using him sexually during that time, i dont remember that? i thought they just cuddled?
maybe if there was a way to DM you the screenshots I could show you that there was more than just the cuddling part. It was so sick that it made me think he's just a psychopathic person with tendencies. If you have any social media i would dm them to you.
Possibly and possibly not. Echo had very brief NSFW writing, but no CGs to my knowledge but the prequel of Echo, The Smoke Room is full NSFW from the very beginning. We'll just have to wait
I think it has the potential to include nsfw scenes. As for writing it is nsfw. Especially in the beginning. The rest is all cutesey stuff like hugging and kissing. I definitely would not want to be caught at work with even that tho.
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I super appreciate how Devon said that if he lost his relationship with Cameron after they've been together so long it would be "traumatic" like, I feel like that's the perfect word to describe it. It is such a small thing but I've never heard that word used in that context and it really helps strengthen my feelings for Dev and Cam's relationship, I very much hope they both make it out okay and still together
Game does not function on Android. Simply gives an "App not installed." Can't do anything about it.
Been having the same issue with a lot of new VN I think it has something to do with renpy. I've been using JoiPlay to run the windows version.
What would be the best order that you would recommend to play Echo Visual Novels?
I want to read them, but I'm wondering if I start with a specific one it could alter the whole experience, or if they are connected in some way.
Short answer: Echo -> TSR -> Arches
BUT
To my mind it is good idea to start with Arches, regardless of Arches being the shortest game so far. (I want everyone to know that I'm not complaining, this VN is in my opinion tough 10/10 with plot, ost and characters) The problem that I had reading Arches was that I knew the main antagonist, some ghosts/spirits and every location, it might sound funny (for me it was xd) but when I was reading it I was like: oh, Cam and Dev are going to the ****, I wonder when they will ******. -5min later- There you go, knew it :)
For many people it might be good actually: to be so familiar with Echo town that you know in advance a lot of things that might happen to the cast even before they will know it, but I don't like spoilers and Echo VN is spoiling a lot. (I am aware that this familiarity could be deliberately implemented by creators, however not everyone has the same tastes.)
Second is Echo, no comment here <3
Third is TSR bc there is a few characters and events that won't ring you any bells. TSR is great in regard to expanding Echo world, but not necessarily learning about it from there.
Again, this is MY opinion why I would go for Arches at first, but if those aspects don't bother you then stick to my short answer up there :)
No matter the order, I'm telling you you won't regret any second spent in this world and that is something that everyone will tell you.
TY for the feedback! It really helps a lot :)
I'm in full agreement with this recommendation!
I actually only got into the Echo project games around July when Arches was in Build 2, but it was the game that hooked me on the concept of Echo.
I went into Arches with no prior expectations, so the opening blew me away and made me so curious as to what would happen next. It is really interesting to see the town of Echo in the aftermath of whatever happened in the game Echo, and wonder... What happened?
I then went back to Echo (the game this time) and checked it out and enjoyed it thoroughly, but Arches still has my highest hopes and expectations and IMO still works as a good jumping off point.
However if you prefer there are a couple of other options for how to play the games:
1. Chronologically (In Universe): Start with The Smoke Room (TSR), go on to Echo, and end with Arches. I wouldn't really recommend this as both TSR and Arches are in development so this will be jarring jumping from the middle of TSR into Echo with no clear path to explain how one leads into the other yet (though I assume it will clear up as development progresses). Another issue with this is that both Arches and TSR expect you to have read Echo and mention some items that lead into speculation about how everything ties together.
2. Chronologically (In Real Life): Start with Echo and get a decent baseline for what can occur in these stories. You can supplement it with Route 65 (Highly recommended after Leo's route in Echo) and Benefits, both of which are short reads. From there you can go on to either Arches or TSR, though it is worth mentioning that TSR has a lot more content due to being further along in development. Both are interesting as they both act as sequels to the game of Echo, but act as prequels (TSR) or sequels (Arches) to the events that occur in the game.
3. Reverse Chronology (In Universe): I accidentally played this way, but it works really well to build up suspense and raise the tension of the mystery. In Arches you see the aftermath of whatever happened in Echo and wonder what possibly could have happened. In my playthough of Echo I could only wonder how this small town leads to the horrors I saw in Arches as I went through the everyday lives of Chase and his friends. And then the horror in Echo hits and it starts to explain some of the horrors that Dev and Cam go through in Arches. After completing Echo and Route 65, I moved back to TSR and have enjoyed seeing how the seeds of what happened in Echo and Arches were laid over 100 years ago and see how things could have shaken out differently.
TLDR: I totally agree with Drago, but hey it's fun to think of different reading orders for these novels, kinda like Star Wars watch orders. :)
Thank you so much for the recommendation and explanation of different scenarios. I will definitely think about which one could suit for my expectations as an avid reader. The only thing is that I need to organize myself because I am currently reading more VN , and I would rather finish one first so I can dig into Echo Project xD
What about route 65?
Route 65 works best played after completing Leo's route in Echo, but before you play TJ, Flynn or Jenna's routes (as it gives some interesting hints but no outright spoilers as to what is to come for those routes).
Why do the characters have 4 fingers here and in Echo they had 5 fingers
Oh my god...
It most likely is due to an art style preference. For example, Adastra's characters have 4 fingers, while The Smoke Room's characters have 5 fingers.
It's either that or something removes a finger from everyone between 2015 and 2020 in the Echo Universe.
The physique in Echo v novels (those in town Echo) are different, in TSR people are the most similar to humans: 5 fingers per hand , men genitals. (well, weird part is that the legs and paws in TSR are actually animalistic, but that s not the point here, you know what I'm saying)
on the other hand in Echo (benefits) we can clearly see the whole animalistic physique: paws instead of hands, paws instead of foots and
the most importantfull animalistic genitalia. I know that from CGs its hard to tell that their whole body resembles more animal than human, but Chase spent some time during inner monologues when he was describing his friends physique and again, dongs are different in either games kekFinally Arches and again full animalistic physique, however characters have 4 fingers like in cartoons.
To summarize I wouldn't mind the differences in how people body are build in Echo bc it just depends of design creators choose.
Edit: I made extra effort and found Duke spirits in echo and arches (he is the only character that is in both games so far) and he has 5 fingers in Echo and 4 in Arches what only confirms what I wrote :)
um how can you leave build four on such a cliffhanger X'(
So um I just finished build 4 and like bro this VN is making me go through a rollercoaster I swear and the cliff hanger holy shit- ... And now we wait again
Hey, I have a really silly question, because English isn't my first langauge--
Why sometimes in the visual novels, the past perfect tense is being used instead of the simple past tense? Like here:
"The smile of relief on Cameron's face seems to break the dam of emotion in Dev's chest. That wild look he'd had earlier, the one that had looked at him as if he were a stranger is gone. "
Why can't it just be "he had" and "looked"? For me there is simply not another time point in the past in this context that precedes the one associated with the "wild look".
I see this tense use a lot, not just in this visual novel. Please help me understand this, for I'm pretty serious about learning English.
Thank you! (BTW, this visual novel is SO TOTALLY AWESOME, literally the best I've ever played!)
If I'm remembering correctly, it's referring to when Cam was in the motel and paranoid that Devon was tricking him.
Yo, English is not my first language either so if I am mistaken pls someone correct me.
Past perfect is used when you are talking about thing that lasted (not only happened) in the past and ended in the past. Just like dont uwu me wrote narrator was referring to the very specific event in the past that took place and now it no longer last. Example:
"The smile of relief on Cameron's face seems to break the dam of emotion in Dev's chest. That wild look he had earlier...
this is past simple and the wild look in this one is just a short glare, however Cam was making this face for a long time. There is more to Past Perfect but i am not enough informed to answer. Next one:
... the one that had looked at him as if he were a stranger is gone. "
in this one had is important because if you removed this word you would get this sentence: the one that looked at him as if he were a stranger is gone. Now we got a sentence where someone someone is looking at Cam and we know it is not a point.
I hope it is helpful and I haven't made fool of myself :)
It's just a sublte difference, but the past perfect ties the sentence to a specific event in the past whilst the simple past leaves it open to many interpretions.
Hey the windows version of the game doesn't want to launch. When I click the launch icon in the game folder nothing happens.
I have no clue what caused this but it wasn't creating a log file when it launched. I just downloaded the game again and now its working and making a log file. That is a very weird glitch
God damn it, what an evil way to cliffhang us, Echo Project :(((. I really enjoyed the music and sound design when it came to the horror.
Inspired by the game, and after having previously played Echo, I felt inclined to contribute with a potential soundtrack. You guys have no obligation to use it, and I take no offense if you don't feel like it fits in the project. If on the other hand you like it, that's cool, and you can get in touch :)
I don't see a contact email anywhere here, or on Patreon..
https://soundcloud.com/hardts/arches?si=16cb212126a34943bfe823d97357f9d4
Edit: I've been playing Arches with music turned OFF without even realizing there are a bunch of great tracks already. Sorry for the ADD mistake. I think I was playing another Ren Py game and listening to spotify or something, and the settings stayed. The music by Anthemics is really good!
This is still an eerie and interesting track. Would be happy to share it on the @EchoTheVN Twitter if you’re okay with that!
Thanks! Absolutely - you're more than welcome to do that :)
حلو التحديث (ماتوقع في عرب بس نشوف3>)
I just got a "Game updated 1 second ago" at my feed!
Damn, what a good timing!
Gonna read at night hehe
When will the public update be released? (Sorry for my English)
I found nothing wrong with what you wrote. 🙂🙂🙂
Right now :)
Your English is quite fine. Even if it wasn't, no one would judge you ^ v^
No matter how much you try, you keep coming back to Echo, huh ?
After finishing Echo (and its two sidestories) and playing The Smoke Room, I finally returned to that (not) fabulous city with Arches
I quite like the story and character chemistry so far. I'll might get booed for this but I think Cameron's a bit annoying, on the other hand Devon is adorable (it's also nice to finally see a bear in Echo that is not freaking Brian)
It's strange when you realize that the most sane characters overall in the Echo multiverse are the ones from the Smoke Room
Morale of the story ? Don't do meth kids, do opium.
Of course! The only possible message here.
I kinda get the vibe that we're not seeing Cameron's true personality in this story, I feel like everyone who goes to Echo has their personality warped and exaggerated if that makes sense? Like, it messes up how they react to situations and that messes up how we see the characters. But it does feel like somehow the readers just keep returning to Echo, we're always going in circles after all
Has there been any updates with Echo Project?
Well, if you'r talking about any updates then there was TSR update 2 days ago (for patreon). Alas, Arches had not got yet. If i'm not mistaken creators were moving out and that's why there is a lot of delays.
The Smoke Room just got updated its newest update was released
does the game have a facebook page?
I had been looking but didn't find anything :/
The same goes for Echo Project fc page, I couldn't find it either
I don't think they have a Facebook page but the do have a twitter account right here. You can find their discord in there too.
https://twitter.com/echothevn
it seem more a story then game
Welcome to the world of Visual Novels
Yeah visual novel focus a lot more on the story aspect, its still technically a game. But it could also just be called a interactive story
I have a little question to clear a doubt. Arches takes place 5 years after the events of Echo, right?
I believe so...
At this point im very attached to Cameron and Devon,so much so that their relationship and development is the thing I enjoy the most rather than the action,however the action is good as always.
So this game is obviously still unfinished, but I must say, it's super engaging! the plot and storyline pulls you in so quickly. I like the depth behind Cameron and Devon, and this whole psychic thing reminds me a lot of Chase. Looking forward to updates, and hoping there's a way to achieve a good ending. I'm attached to the characters already ^w^
Help! I downloaded the newest version but it says "app not installed" when i update it.
is Arturo a jaguarundi?
Yes
spoiler a head .
i had to create new account to comments about this game , character design looking good , theme , game hub looking good. but the main story over here is too suffocation i mean is about ghost , drugs , im legit ok with it , but it's too much , like is happened again and again , its make characters and story line goes crazy and overwhelming.
that is MY OPINION about this game.
One thing I'm noticing here is the absolute detail with the characters. When we know in detail about the characters thoughts and feelings, the characters and story begin to feel immersive.
Yea, it is not very common that we know whole backstory of each character from the beginning, but it really help with understanding their feelings, decisions they make and reactions. As a readers we don't have to suspect what the second one think, cause we have whole perspective from both characters.
omg I wrote riders instead of readers and someone read it, its so embarrassing
I didn't even notice it lol
which country Sonora was suoposed to be ?
first i thought that was AltNicaragua because Arthuro refers to the sonoran flag as "azul y blanco" but then it was pointed out to me that Sonora comes from the sonoran desert which would mean that Sonora is AltMexico, so which is it ?
Sonora is Echo equivalent of Mexico.
Arturo doesn't refer to Sonoran flag in his dialogue - it's Devon who mentions it, making a comparison to what Artie said (going something like "...people here don't know what that flag is - but if I were to mount a Sonoran flag on the other hand...").
i see, thank you for the clarification
Sonora is a Mexican state, is near the top left part of Mexico and is a border state to the U.S. , and it doesn't have a flag per se, but it does have a unique seal, like every Mexican state.
I know that as a matter of fact it is quite new game, but i wonder if or when will be Arches merch. Are there any ideas of making anything in the future?
SPOILERS for Echo if by anychance someone here haven't play it yet
the only ending in Echo where this could take place is the one where you chose to help Kudzu insted of going for the gun
In the other endings for Leo's route, aswell in Carl and Jenna's routes either Duke or Brian or both die
and we see from Cameron and Devon in TJ and Flynn's route
As a lot of people already said, Arches is its standalone thing, so there's a chance it won't even follow any of Echo's routes. You may be right, however. We'll see in due time!
i am aware i'm just saying hypothetically
but when i went for the gun both duke and brian survived as far as i can tell.
sure i shot brian in the head but he survived that (by some miracle i suppose, how else would he have drove me to the mine)
and duke escapes leo's house so he survives as well as far as i can tell.
but i've only played through echo 2 times so i might have missed somethings.
i'll have to wait till i play arches though, i installed it yesterday night while i was going through leo's route and for what ever reason it installed the wrong platform variant of the game XD
Duke is killed by the Hum when he tries to leave Echo in Chase's car, Brian is killed in the mine by the white monster
oop XD.
now that you mention it i do happen to remember that now.
Finally its been so long since the last update, and I go through these way too fast
"App not installed."-AndroidFix: Uninstall previous app version.
Caveat: Lose all saved data...
Yep happened to me too. 😥😥
oh no a update, let me just prepare myself
Честно говоря, это хорошее начало для интересной и атмосферной игры. Буду смотреть за продолжением Сюжета игры и поддерживать Финансово на patreon.... sooooooo cute:)
А кто тут гг-то?
если, в Эхо был Чейз, то у меня что-то в голове не укладывается картина кто МОЖЕТ БЫТЬ ТУТ учитывая, что это отдельная история но основанная на событиях ПОСЛЕ Эхо.
Тут нет главного героя, и Девон и Камерон оба являются главными персонажами, про которых будет рассказываться история.
I'm not trying to rush anyone. But please are we getting a another chapter. This game was getting very good. Its so hard waiting, y'all make amazing games
April 22 was 122 days ago. If part 2 came out 68 days from part 1, then we can expect part 3 in 2 weeks from now. Hopefully it will come out sooner. Maybe it will come out later. All the same, when it does we will be thrilled! (Sorry for the pun).
I hope your right I wish they had a release schedule, or at least gave us updates on how long they think the update will take.
According to the Twitter account, Build 3 was released to Patreon on August 14th. It is likely that we will see the public release for Build 3 soon (Maybe this weekend or next hopefully).
i mean rushed things dont come out good i rather them take a long time for it to be good. its not like their gonna abandon it just be paitent, having a deadline/schedule creates pressure sometimes.
i wonder if were gonna see anything about sam and his gang instead of chase and his gang? or maybe more in depth on the murder and what sams attacker was thinking before and after he died?
I am gonna relive a trauma if the "Echo" sign appears again
Smart Alec 😂😂
is this nsfw
If I’m not mistaken there’s no nudity nor sex scenes as of build 2 (the latest as of writing this).
*not in-game, but fuckin hot~
Wait, I don’t remember seeing this on twitter, where’s it from?
Check the furbidden site.
Ah yes, of course. Thanks lol
the what?
the what site
Is dearest darlingest best boy leo in this?
Nah this is about different people and Leo moved after the events of echo, so he shouldn't be in this as more than maybe a picture in his old house or a cameo.
darn, i was hoping he would be, since the characters from this make a cameo at the end of his """good""" ending, i figured that meant he'd still be in town while they're here
Are you sure? Arches doesn't follow any Echo routes, Leo, Flynn and Carl would still be in town. (unless it is somewhere written that they left Echo, then my bad)
However I doubt we will see Leo, it's not his story after all (I wish we would see him though *sob* ... poor wolfy)
there's a small chance that we will follow flynn's route actually.....we just need few more update to figure that out
Arches does NOT follow any route.
It’s actually unclear since Arches doesn’t really come after any of the Echo routes, so it’s just as possible possible some of the gang may be in town as them having all left.
Leo might have moved in with his parents in Payton where his father gave him the mechanic job there. Chase, Jenna, and TJ might have returned to college/stayed in college (MA/MS/Ph.D. track). Carl might have found work in Payton/given college another try. Flynn might have passed away after contracting STD's from engaging in TSR unprotected; at least he'll finally be with Sydney. Like Echo routes, anything is a possibility within the multiverse which explains how socket face travels across space, time, and dimensions.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Leo a psychopathic person? Like he killed his friend and didn't even try to save his ex from dying slowly. he also used him sexually while he was still bleeding slowly. I'm sorry if i hurt anyone but to me Leo is sick and twisted. I used to have a crush on him as i read the novel. It made me so surprised Leo would EVER do something so... evil like that.
that was under the influence of the Mass Hysteria Event, which exacerbates everyone's worst traits. killing the friend i think you're talking about was because he saw him as a threat to chase (leo's overprotectiveness and possessiveness), and he did try to stop the bleeding, but after that he refused to acknowledge there was still a problem (his avoidant tendencies). as for using him sexually during that time, i dont remember that? i thought they just cuddled?
maybe if there was a way to DM you the screenshots I could show you that there was more than just the cuddling part. It was so sick that it made me think he's just a psychopathic person with tendencies. If you have any social media i would dm them to you.
im on twitter, @TinyBaronessV2
Ok, having gone over the ending again, I reassert: Leo is dearest darlingest best boy who never did anything wrong lmao
*not in-game, but Fruitz begs to differ~
is this nsfw?<
It isn't yet at least, and to my knowledge neither were the other games in the Echo line.
Possibly and possibly not. Echo had very brief NSFW writing, but no CGs to my knowledge but the prequel of Echo, The Smoke Room is full NSFW from the very beginning. We'll just have to wait
I think it has the potential to include nsfw scenes. As for writing it is nsfw. Especially in the beginning. The rest is all cutesey stuff like hugging and kissing. I definitely would not want to be caught at work with even that tho.
My game is not updating,I've to download a new game everytime, is there a way to fix it?
also , "otter" , "feline", are the people from the original echo dead in this?
I don’t think the feline was seen in the game before, but the otter’s probably Sydney
Wait didn't Sydney drown? How could an otter drown? Also pretty sure we meet the feline in this update from like a month ago.
What routes have you played in Echo?
just leo, im guessing if its answered in another route. if it is just say that cause im playing on playing all the routes.
It is explained in other routes; careful watching comment sections cause there’s some unmarked spoilers sometimes
playing this and i just want to say cameron choice in staying is making me so mad..im screaming i just want them to get the hell out...UGH