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Alright, I have to say that I really, really like this game. However, however, there is a particular scene that is bothering me.

Also, spoilers...








Good? Good.

My problem mainly comes from the sex scene, which Marco and Amicus are having during Lover’s day. The thing that concerns me the most is Amicus’s attitude towards this. I do have to say that it is extremely cool of him to offer a position in which Mc wanted to do a sex scene, and yet there is something that I felt like it hurt my feelings.

1)           There was a moment when Amicus and Marco remarked about that “Emperors can’t allow to have anything near their butts”. It makes perfect sense in the context of setting, but the fact that Amicus can let go of this rule exclusively for “lover’s day” while asking to fuck Marco many times before that means that he might be arrogant and prideful towards MC, which while also means perfect sense, can’t help but really hurt, especially after all other stuff that he did for the sake MC. I have feeling that if Marco asked Amicus whether or not he himself can fuck him instead of other way around any time previously the lover’s day (like the very first sex scene between them), Amicus would not allow it either, but if Marco had a legitimate reason for rejection, then Amicus would probably not do it because of his pride. Which means that he probably doesn’t love MC enough. And that really, really hurts. I think that if he truly loves MC, then he really should allow Marco entering inside of him whenever Mc would ask him, though, as I said, it might not be the case.

2)           Considering how the “bottom” scene played out, I have feeling that there is a part of Amicus that views MC as a sexual material. I guess he can’t help it, but the fact that he takes advantage of romantic feelings of MC in order to satisfy his carnal desire is a bit blatant and repulsive. Like the way he looked at him during their sex scene, or the way he immediately pinned him down to a wall without even asking whether or not MC agrees on this seems a bit like sexual harassment. I know that their relationship is probably has evolved during this time, but it still seems a bit much.

Just to clarify: it does not mean that I hate Amicus; it is because I love him so much that I’m becoming so vulnerable to even the smallest and most inconsequential act of selfishness or malevolence towards MC, and that’s why it is able to hurt me so much.

I know that MC shouldn’t overstep his boundaries with Amicus, but the same time after their adventure I started desperately want for Amicus to fully open up to him.

But, overall, what do you guys think? I really like if somebody proves me wrong on this one, since I still love Amicus as much as anyone else.

Edit: Posted the same topic somewhere else. Hope that’s allowed. Please don’t yell at me(((

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With 1), I kind of interpreted that scene in the way that Amicus had moved past needing to always be top, not just because it's Lover's Day, but because he's changed his viewpoint. He's kind of gotten over feeling uncomfortable about being entered, because "Hey Marco, I love you!"

With 2), I have zero objections to being physically desired and enjoyed, especially with somebody like Amicus. I don't think there's anything wrong with Amicus being forward and wanting to get what he wants. There exists sexual attraction outside of physical appearances and seeing someone as a piece of meat -- being sexually attracted to somebody you're head-over-heels in love with (even if that guy is as homely as a mule's butt). This is a bit tangential, but I've had an experience where I was in love with a guy (or, in retrospect, it was probably more like infatuation); I wanted him more than anything. But when things didn't work out, and that infatuation passed, I had zero further desire to be with him physically. His appearance had not changed. He looked exactly the same, but I didn't have those romantic feelings for him any more. Anyway, that was just a bit of a long-winded way for me to say that I wanted that guy, but it was because of feelz, not so much seeing somebody as a toy. And in terms of pinning him, I don't really recall a point where either Amicus' or Marco's advances were inappropriate for the situation or their level of relationship... except for maybe the alcohol-fueled kiss. Making decisions while tipsy doesn't always end well. 

Amicus loves Marco. He (SPOILERS TO ANYONE READING TOO MUCH INTO THIS DISCUSSION) proposed to him after researching human proposals and marriage customs and is trying to do all he can to get that fantasy of spending hundreds of years together, just as Marco is.

Pfft, look at me, defending a muscular cartoon wolf. God, I'm so invested.

Hope it gives you another perspective!

It helped, actually! Thank you!

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The game doesn't say that Amicus keeps constantly asking you to bottom, just that you had sex many times and he asked just a few times (and then stopped asking). And that the MC did not say he did not want to bottom, just that he's nervous about the size (he says "some other time," and there's nothing in the game to suggest he says that, because he can't say no to Amicus).

Adastra mirrors the sexual norms of our classical antiquity. Gay sex is frowned upon, but bottoming was seen as magnitudes worse than topping. Penetrating someone was about power and societal position. The handful of texts from that time that present gay couples positively religiously follow the rule that the older, more powerful, and more influential partner is the one doing the penetration.

So Amicus grew up in such an atmosphere. Being gay is bad and shameful enough, and he's also aware that he'd probably lose any claim to the throne, if he bottomed and that information got out to the public. So there's that, plus the fact that he just prefers topping, which is perfectly fine. He's also expecting you to say no. So he asks again, but he's mentally preparing to bottom (for the first time, btw). Even if you say yes he says "we don't need to do this at all," when he sees that you're nervous. So he's ready to do anything to be more intimate with you, since you'll be separated soon, but he puts your comfort first. Like during the first time, when he asks "is this okay," he's checking in with you throughout.

As to the second point, I agree with Esuriit. It's not like Amicus just wants to get off, he wants to be intimate with you (and no one else). I don't think there's anything wrong with him desiring you on a physical level. 
The MC is a defined character and I got the feeling it was assumed that a) he's very much on board with the sex, and b) he'd prefer bottoming, but he's nervous, because of the size difference and the fact that he's never done anything before the timeline of the game other than some handjobs.

I don't know, after the fight before the second trial, I got the feeling that Amicus was nothing but considerate and respectful towards the MC.

This game is really awesome, i really love your work!

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Holy shit this is really good!

Is there gonna be more updates please say yes I can't continue my life without knowing what happenes next

I cant speak for the devs, but If you check out their patreon, they state that this is the final build for adastra, but they are working on the next game in the universe of adastra, khemia!

Yes it's true that this is the final build for Adastra, continuing on ending B (when Marco meet with Meera). And then, we just need to waiting for next Sequel project   >o<

Even better, it's likely coming out this July, so!

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Marvelous game! I played it all day long! Wish my wolf come soon! A nice and romantic story! Thank you, all the game developers!

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Just finished the game and I miss my husband already. Damn you for making something so amazing that no ending could possibly satisfy our desire for more xD

any news about the adastra sequel

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I was wary to play this, since the story in Echo was incredibly bleak and I couldn't finish it, but a few friends recommended this. And I'm so incredibly happy that I did finally play Adastra.

Once I started, I couldn't stop and finished the game in two days. The setting, the characters, and the story are just so incredibly well written. I can't stop thinking about the plot and about what's coming. Unlike with some other VNs, I did not mind the limited dialogue choices. The main character said and felt exactly as I would. And the art is just beautiful. Haps really gave the designs so much charm and personality.

And Amicus is so amazing. I love him and how the relationship grew. I can't believe how many times I cried. I keep coming back to the final island scene and just start crying every time the music starts playing. There are very few stories, where I got so attached to the characters.

The universe is spherical, can't convince me otherwise.
Thank you for the wonderful experience! Can't wait for Khemia.


P.S. plz Howly don't hurt Amicus and his husband in the sequels, my heart won't be able to take it

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+1. They both deserve their happy endings

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I downloaded this and literally played non-stop for two days. Couldn't put it down! I fell in love with the story and the characters and... Everything really! I don't think I'll even be able to play a different visual novel ^^

I really hope that there's more to the story and that it continues in another update/game hell, I'd be satisfied if I even got a script version to just sit down and read.

Thank you for making such an amazing game!!!

So i clicked download and have the win.zip and i have no idea how to play the game, This is my first time ever downloading a game like. It would be awesome if i could get some help from like anyone

You need to extract the files from the folder (right click then extract all) then open the adastra application in the extracted folder. (I'm guessing that that's your problem)

Thanks this is really helpful and it was so thanks again i really appreciate it 

This game genuinely moved me to tears in multiple parts. I haven't felt this enthralled and emotional over a story for a long time. Thank you so much to all who worked on it for giving us such an amazing experience <3

How do you get the final scene in the gallery?

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i just hope i wont have to wait 8 years for the sequel lol

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/!\SPOILER ALERT/!\

I used to think 'I wanna know how Adastra will end' and now that I've finished it I feel so sad and empty, kinda like Amicus has really left me on the planet earth and went back to Adastra... like I really have to spend 8 years away from him to finally live the rest of my life next to him


Really amazing VN EchoProject, I loved every single second of it, Thanks a lot and I really can't wait for the next VN

amazing game, wept the entire time during the ending.


excited for the next one!

In the post-debate scene is the small girl who gives you the flower the reason you get sick later on?

--SPOILERS--


I think it's implied that yes, she is the one who gives you "avia pox." And I'm pretty sure someone had planned for this to happen. 

I still think that it was Alex that put something on the back of MC in the chariot while going to the city. #fuckyoualex

Yeah, I'm suspecting it was him, but I think he contacted the other spies in the city and they somehow forced the girl to come up to the MC. She seemed pretty upset, so I think they threatened her. Either way, hope there's an option to yeet Alex into a garbage can in the sequel

So we have Adastra, next up is Khemia... What's next, Omorfa? :D

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Well, I started this VN a bit curious about the absurd plot it revolves around and I ended up really loving it. I've played different novels of this kind but at the moment this gave me the strongest feelings. I love the art, the writing and the music, which is always appropriate for the moment. I got the bad ending with my first choices, so I let you imagine the sadness I've felt xD

I must say that while I think that Amicus is cute and a really nice character (a bit silly too xD), I love Neferu and I would have liked to see him more (but I understand that it wouldn't have worked with the story).

I thank everyone who worked on this project, it was an experience who pulled many strings of my being :)

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I just finished this VN and... holy shit. I'm crying, I got the "good end" but I don't want it to be over. This story is a masterpiece, I couldn't stop thinking about it. The writing, the characters, the art, everything about this visual novel was just so amazing and intense and beautiful and I just... fuck, I wish there was more, but even now it's perfect as it is. All the twists and turns, I never knew what would come next and it just left me so satisfied at the end. And the art, my god, the art. It was so amazing and... Seriously, I can't put it in words, but there's a hole in my heat from what the ending had in store, even if it was all planned you could really feel the heartache in the same way the protagonist did. And, in that way, that's what made the visual novel such a crazy and beautiful experience. You were sad when the protagonist was sad, angry when they were angry, confused when they were confused, scared when they were scared, but even more so you were happy when they were happy, determined when they were determined, and even horny when they were horny. The amount of immersion into the story that the writing brings, the depth of the personalities of all the different characters, the CGs and the art style in general (I have to admit, I saved before you were asked whether to top or bottom because I wanted both~) and just... the entire story was like nothing I've ever played through. I'm definitely going to have to run through the story again, because it's such a wonderful piece and is honestly my new favorite visual novel at this point.

So, um, thank you to Echo Project for making this VN. And everyone who helped out, thank you too. God, I'm still crying even as I write this because it was such a fucking beautiful experience.

So, edit: I guess everyone else's already seen it by now, but to those just coming here, they'll be making a VN revolving around Khemia. Not sure if it's a sequel or a side story, but I can't wait either way.

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And here I am, half an hour later, still crying over the title music. This is such a masterpiece, everything about it. I'll probably just sit here for another thirty minutes crying, and thinking about it hours after.

So, even if I sound like a broken record...

Thank you. Thank you for bringing this story to me, and I'm so happy I got to be with "my wolf," even if it was just for what felt like moments.

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Dude I was crying too and reading your message has made me cry even more. I have felt exactly the same way you described in your message... Feeling angry, happy or sad when Amicus and the main character did..

That ending... When Amicus cries right before he leaves... that part broke my heart... It was a happy but sad ending. I really hope we get to see more of Amicus on the next VN

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I love you Amicus

So wait, is the ending the same as the last update? I got to the point where you are back on earth, and excited to start the 8 year journey. Is that where it actually ends? 

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can anyone help me get this To work on a pc or an iphone? i got it to work on my phone using apk but i recomended to a friend and he dosent have an android.

How do i get Ending B please someone help me!

When the parents ask you if you will submit or not if you say "No" after the scene of amicus and Cato's fight you will get the Ending B

I'm also having difficulty with that. When I tried that, it just ended for me. Am I doing something wrong?

No, that's the ending B

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If you're referring to the game ending after the fight, that's not Ending B. Ending B ends at the same place Ending A does and depends on what you select earlier in the game, however from what I could tell, you have to always submit to the parents. 

SPOILERS

I mean, up to interpretation but I guess you can say there are 3 endings, even though one just happens because you fucked up big time and the Parents are like "Oh well, thanks for trying, you can just sit in this void forever."

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There are three questions throughout the game that determine your ending, with ending A being the result of answering at least 2/3 optimistically, and ending B being at least 2/3 pessimistic answers. I believe the important questions are (from memory):

What does death mean (Infinity A/Oblivion B)

Will Amicus be a good emperor (Yes A/No B)

Should Amicus talk more with Neferu (Yes A/ No B)

The option to refuse the parents' plan just leads to a bad end.

Isn't there also the one that's like "Will you give yourself to the benevolent of the Parents?"

I feel like that one's less of an ending A vs ending B, and more of a good end/bad end situation, considering the point in the game it affects determines whether you live or die there.

Oh yeah, you have ending A and B where it's both the same event except the imformation you're given is different in each. One being how beautiful your life will be with Amicus, and the other being what you're exactly supposed to do on Earth.

And then you have THAT ending where you just die and float in space forever, waiting for Amicus. Aimlessly.

does the human get topped in this?

yes, defo getting topped

Your choice~

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"Pants? Why?"

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ive been here since version 7.0 and this vn is the only one to make me cry and make me feel pain from reading a story this is my first time that has happen to me and im glad it happened on such an adorable journey i cant wait for the khemian chapter to come out since i most likely will read all the way through that one too. keep up the work echo ^_^

Is there a guide or are the choices simple?

Choices are simple

Yeah the choices are quite straight-forward! Follow the Parents you get Ending A, disobey the Parents you get Ending B.

I want to hug amicus and tell him everything is okay

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First visual Nov ever to cause me to literally cry at least three times. The only games to ever make my cry have been Lost Odessey and Final Fantasy XV. This VN had me crying in bed, crying on the toilet, and then crying in my living room. Like, full on snot dripping cry with tears making a puddle on the floor. Cared so much for Amicus that the main character kept making me mad at how much he kept blue-balling him, but I still ended up SO PISSED during the scene with Amicus and Neferu. I was DONE with Amicus and Neferu SO bad. Then eventually I came around just like the main character did. Ended up wishing I could have been with both Amicus and Neferu at the same time lol!

All of the characters are really unique and have a lot of personality. They're also non-generic and have multiple layers of motivation, emotion, strengths and weaknesses. I also love how each child represented a culture on Earth. The Lore was VERY well put together. I wish I could find an Amicus or Neferu of my own lol. 

Was so good I couldn't stop reading. There's a lot of action, romance, betrayal, unexpected twists, just so many different emotions going on throughout the whole story. I'm definitely left wanting so much more. There aren't many choices in this VN and I'm not sure if they even change the outcomes of anything, but either way this story was very long, had great composition from beginning to end and I just can't praise it enough. I hope there is more to come!

Had to edit this comment because I literally can't stop thinking about this VN! 

I<3 Amicus & Neferu!

I wanna know before I start playing. Is this game gonna put me into a bad depression just like Echo did? Echo only had bad endings, but it did such a good job at making lovable characters, just to kill them or worse.


Please let me know...

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Adastra is actually a very good story. there are some sad moments in it, but it is NOTHING like what happens in Echo. There are maybe two or three scenes in the entire story that are upsetting. The rest of it is amazing. I highly recommend playing it.

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Okay, thanks <3

My pleasure.

So, I finished it, and holy heck. This had such an impact on me, wow. Thanks for the assurance. I saw another comment that read "I can't believe Amicus left me on Earth like that", and I'm relieved to learn that it was in a good way. I can't wait for Adastra II. I wonder if we'll play the protagonist more. I hope so...

I'm glad you enjoyed it. I know I sure did. There are a couple different ways to make the story take other routes. There is what you would call a bad ending, which occurs when you are asked if you agree to submit yourself to the benevolent will of the parents. If you say no to this (and I would advise making a save at this spot) then later on after the fight  between Cato and Amicus, something different happens.

The story is also slightly altered depending on your answer to three other questions in the game. Picking more A answers will lead to a certain scene in the late game playing out one way, and picking more B answers will lead to it playing the other way. These aren't the exact words to the questions, but I got this from MurlocMazta here on this page.

What does death mean to you  (Infinity A / Oblivion B)

Will Amicus be a good emperor (Yes A / No B)

Should Amicus talk more with Neferu (Yes A /  No B)


Hope that helps.

i love this game so much!


i wanna see amicus again tho- :<

:)

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I've never cried so many times before.

This game has changed me so much!

We need more. I need more.

I loved everything about this story and the characters, and cried alongside they.

Please, don't stop. I'm so excited to continue it.

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Can someone tell me if there is going to be a sequel?

I need to see Amicus again!

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I'm 90% sure they confirmed a sequel, I just don't know when it will happen.

Thx

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I've been brought to tears.


I cant even explain how much this game has affected me in the feels

I agree with you in so many levels!

I just can't stop thinking on Amicus and the BG story...

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Hi! I have question... my  Build 16 is ends at meeting with Meera. Is this is Ending? i am little confused. 

Sadly, it is :< there are 2 endings tho. Ending A and B

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They didint have enough time for both ending so they did only one but the next update is soon and it has the second ending

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I... Am at a loss for words for how BEAUTIFUL and how GRAND this game is! Its so emotional! I cried at least 6 times reading it and is just a great experience overall! I LOVE IT Read it yourself is all i am going to say.

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I literally cannot wait for an update of this game!!!!!!!!!!!


And the question is WHEN will it happen?

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I have to admit, I've never played something so well done and so emotionally breathtaking. The story is so creative and yet extremely emotional, and the drawings are perfectly done. You sure gained a fan here.

P.s. Is it true that the game's still in development?

I think they're planning on releasing a sequel soon

This took me like 2 weeks to finish and i cried 6 times... ITS AMAZING

Really?? When?? I need to know!!

Holy shit, this game is still in development!?!? And here I thought the ending is good enough..... ENOUGH TO MAKE ME SUPER DOWN AFTER PLAYING IT!!!!! 

WHY WOULD YOU DO DIS TO ME!?!?

;———;

but if you plan on continue dis, I'm not gonna complain........ I'll just play this game with tears in my eyes.... damn, I can't even bear to watch the game icon without my heart breaking ;-;


THIS GAME IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDEDDDD

20 OUT OF TENNNN!!!


As much as Coming out on top is a superb VN, But I actually prefer the fluffs and the dramas and the heartbreaks and the FEELSS OF THE STORYY!!! I really felt guilty downloading this game with the initial thought of seeing this as an another source of hot and steamy story, but now...... It's like I'm back on feeeling what I felt after watching Brokeback Mountain and Burning Blue...... I stan you and thank you for being alibe and made this game!! ;-;

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AND OH MY GOD, YOU'RE THE ONE THAT MADE THE ECHO AND THE SMOKE ROOM TOO!?!?!?! WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO MEEEEEE!?!?!?!?


I WILL FOLLOW YOU FOR THE REST OF MY LIFEEEE!!!!

I REAAALLLLY want to read the smoke room! But i dont bc it doesnt involve chase and them!!! Tell me should i read it or what because i am very interested! Is it as good as echo and Adastra?

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I'd say TSR is better than Echo but  Adastra cannot be beaten 

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Right! Adastra is the top of my list always! I'll be sure to check it out Thanksss❤

Who doesn't want to learn Gay Histories???

right

I agree with you in so many ways...

I love their work. And how many good is the others ECHO PROJECT games?

Like, none other furry wolf won't ever take place in my heart than Amicus!

so fucking good took me 2 whole days to finish an i have no regrets thanks for putting his up for free and thank u sooo much for ur hardwork on making this <3

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Since this game is still in development (i hope) i wish there are consequences after the ending, after 8 years of waiting MC and Amicus reunite again as fate destined. At least some passionate romantic sex scene after long time they apart (which is i wish it happened on the ship when Amicus has MC return to the earth) considering it's the last time they will see each other (not last though but very long time) which is make sense according to Amicus's carnal desire and love for MC. 

The idea another spin off of human that has assigned mission to make alliance with Khemian and designed to meet and create an impassioned love story with Neferu is appealing too.

On the mission of MC i personally imagine it would thrill somehow, like an undercover emissary on the mission to sync the Earth to the Galaxias system .(which is legitimately actions to do so by the Parent's will but need to be surreptitious because of consequences)

Dear Author, this VN game is really superfine piece of work, personally it's not only gave me enjoyment but it gave a lot of perceptive of many things; differences, equality and perceptive of unconditional love. I really appreciated your work, i thank you very much for create such an amazing story and fasinated content. 

Despite the ending i still wish to see more of story that might reveal a lot more interesting, complatcent, fascinated moments even though it requires a lot of hardship and time so if it might end here i'm still very impressed by stories, I wish you a healthy condition and may happiness bless you always.

( A bit more; i really despise Alexios, apologize for my rudeness and apologize for the protracted opinion as well.)

Love you, AMICUS

Amicus won't never fade away from my heart...

And I need to know, when the sequel is coming out?

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