Itch builds for EchoProject novels tend to release around 2-3 weeks after the Patreon build releases. So approximately around the 15-29th time frame of this month.
Hi all, this is wild and random but I found Smoke Room because one of my songs has showed up on a couple Spotify Playlists dedicated to it. The song is Ain't No Politician by Nicholas Rowe. I would really like to know if my song is in the game. I'm merely curious really, I'm a writer for Storyblocks, and don't usually get to see where my music is used. It's always fun to find it out in the wild. Can anyone shed any light?
just kidding, I really hope you will give it a try, EchoProject's novels are something else, although maybe better idea would be starting witch Echo itself for many, MANY reasons ;)
I love your music and it fits the tone of the game perfectly sometimes. Some of the audioblocks stuffs veers more big epic cinema sounds or fancy yogurt commercial so it can be hard to find solid folk pieces. You are very appreciated.
Thank you. Nice to meet you as well. I know the game is still unfinished so please let me know if you need any more stuff in the same vein. I'd be happy to help.
Love all your visual novels I just wish the wait time wasn't so long I know Nikolai is coming up next but you kind of left William at the worst cliffhanger as well but still love it all the same
Sometimes I feel like Echo is a real place, as it feels like I really do move in circles, going back again and again to the amazing works associated with this town.
How should I put it... It's not just a novel, it's a masterpiece.
I've been reading furry visual novels for about a year now and I can say with confidence that this is the best thing I've read thus far.
Every line of dialogue, every image, everything is exactly where it should be.
I finished reading Echo last fall and was left blown away by the quality of the narration, but the writers managed to outdo themselves with The Smoke Room.
Each route is unique in its own way, revealing the mysteries of the town of Echo and its inhabitants. It's like a puzzle - the reader learns more details and revelations in each route of the chosen companions.
Each character is beautifully written - each have their own skeletons in the closet, each have their own secrets, no one is as unambiguous as it might seem at first glance.
The Smoke Room skillfully combines elements of romance, horror, and detective storytelling.
At times I was frightened along with the characters, rejoiced at their triumphs, even cried, both at the bitter revelations of the characters and the incredible scenes created by the writers. The literal music video in the middle of Clifford's route still makes me marvel.
What else is there to say? I'm really looking forward to the continuation of all the routes, but my personal favorite is William. (What can I say, I suppose I enjoy being tied up).
I love the narrative in both Echo and TSR, but I'm still having problems with the horror. Like it's so dark that I just don't feel scared anymore haha, of course that is personal opinion and takes nothing from the VN itself as every character is believable and lovable.
Btw Echo is a real place in Utah and it's really a Ghost Town if you ever wondered.
Just got the what has been finished from Nik and Will routes. I love Nik a lot but I do believe Will is better suited for Sam. They both suffered enough so that can support each other. I like Nik more but I don't see Sam liking him back enough.
Why yes, that was my plan. He is the least attractive to me in any front, but after William's route I just got wondering myself so I will take a look after Murdock
I am a little conflicted cause William is as hot as the sun on summer (XD) but Nik is the type that gets my gears going phisically and sentimentaly speaking. I will need to see what's the deal with Murdock as many seem to love him
To be honest William just barely beats out Nik for me. Also I like Williams sense of humor. Its not like Nik loses by much for me its by a hair, but for me at least he still loses to William. Also William seems like a better protector but I mean he is literally the sheriff so that is to be expected.
Any theories on what makes Echo a cursed land? My current theory is a greater demon that causes trouble keeping the land in a constant state of anger and fear. Feeding of it to get stronger.
Also it could just be pissed off spirits. In a lot of lore when a lot of people die horrible deaths it has a way of cursing the land. Kinda makes a snowball effect makes it harder for people to be at peace in the land.
Or maybe a combination? Angry spirits would make a good food source for a demon considering they feed off negative emotions.
If anyone has theories I'd love to hear them. Also in Echo they mention a windago? But the confusing part if its a windago they are corrupted spirits caused by cannibalism. As far as I know they are currently no cannibals as far as I know. Unless there is some lore that I don't know of?
I never get tired of saying that Echo's evil and the Other from Adastra are one and the same as they have a similar way of acting and feeds on negative feelings. Even Neferu stated that stories of haunted buildings or towns is just the Other manifesting in a lessed way.
Ok playing through Nik's route, he is so cute! How protective he is of Samuel is adorable to see. Can't wait for more to come out, I need to know how Nik and Sam's story plays out (I need them to get "married" hehe)
Yes, but that's also a part of his character that I really like. The whole line about [spoiler] "wanting to pay to hold him forever, and pay him what he's really worth" basically felt like an confession of love, and it was cute as hell!! [endspoiler]
I'm getting very strong Silent Hill/ Dark Souls vibes from this last update. I don't really know where this is going, but I'm hooked. Also why did it end the way it did!? 😃😃😩😩
Edit: I think the town either has a mind of its own or the spirits there are evil. Then with the dream Sam had, was it a dream or a vision?
Re: The Smoke Room - Build 20: Ghosts of Melodious Prophesyings Rave
Literary References:
Title: 'Endymion' - John Keats
[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 20 BELOW]
[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 20 BELOW]
[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 20 BELOW]
A "Brief" Summary:
This build picks up right after the voice in Samuel's head tells Sam that he has a guess on what Murdoch is referring to. This then proceeds to a long discussion between Murdoch and Samuel about possible confessions of the murder that happened a month prior in the story. Murdoch goes on to say that the noose is not a way of justice, but a heavy tether between life and death. Going on to say that the reason why the people of Echo want to see Samuel hanged is not because of murder, but out of excitement and the tension the gallows bring. Afterwards, Samuel leaves Murdoch alone and heads to the pawn shop to meet up with Jim wherein a conversation between them occurs where Samuel reveals that he knows that Jim is proceeding in intercourse with his soon to be brother-in-law and is also engaging in sex with Murdoch as well. Leading Jim to say that Murdoch is very eager for the 'relationship' between the two men and can not get enough of Jim. Murdoch soon walks in afterwards and interrupts their conversation and leaves with Samuel back to his family's general store. Inside we find William discussing with Ralph about the presumed whereabouts of Samuel, Samuel obviously wants to hide himself but it caught by Alfred Byrnes before he can choose to do so. William then leads Samuel and Murdoch to the back of the store to question Samuel about what exactly happened the month prior. Samuel feigns that he doesn't remember exactly what happened that night due to the head injury he sustained during the struggle (with help of Murdoch, discussing how he had a concussion during his teenage years). William proceeds to implying say that he would buy Murdoch [for sex] if things did not work out with his current profession and waltzes off. Murdoch and Sam go into the store's red room and they discuss various things about how photography works (the lights and all that) and end off talking about what exactly happened to Seamus. Sam returns to the Hip and gets his suit hemmed by Cynthia and he has two clients before sleeping and dreaming about what happened to Blithe's friend Melissa and Blithe waking up. The build ends with a conversation between Gretchen Byrnes and Samuel about politics.
Thoughts & Opinions:
I may be hugely biased because Murdoch Byrnes is my favorite character in the novel and his route is something I hold in high regard. I don't really have much to say as I did in my 'Rocks of Sombre Hue' review but I still thoroughly enjoyed 'Ghosts of Melodious Prophesyings Rave' as what it was. I loved the two new CGs that were included this build and the return of the glorious 88883 to my mix of giddiness and despair in the moment. I am excited to see how the rest of Murdoch's route goes from here and I wish for the best for Mr. Byrnes by the end, although knowing that (depending on the ending(s)) his fate could be something worse than death. However, I do feel that the façade of Murdoch's emotional state is beginning to crack more and more as the story has been progressing, the breakdown from the end of 'Sparkles Bleared and Black and Blind' only but cements that as a definite possibility for things to come when it comes to Murdoch as an individual who can hide his emotions in such a way.
Probably because it was a little rude? People normally don’t read the important stuff, even I first thought it was finish. Also, yes, you did answer. And no, I wasn’t the one who gave you a minus.
I actually wonder why he did that too.
Also, development log doesn’t say if it is done or not. Neither on the start of the description of the game.
Unless is Echo and Adastra which are the only projects that I know are finish.
I'm thinking the 'perfect' ending for TSR: Sam reveal his truth to Nik then Nik encourage Sam to tell it to William. Things go like William's route which mean he takes Nik, Sam, and Murdoch to the mine. In the way back, Murdoch throw a joke (and half serious) about last night bet. Then the things go like Murdoch route which he offer Sam to work in Red's for extra cash. Somehow, Cliff still looking for Sam and the end Sam help him with his research. Will it work?
It's too abrupt for Sam reveal his truth to William in William's route. Meanwhile William give Nik and Sam pressures in Nik's route by suddenly visiting them. It make them lied to him. Nik knows that William is a good guy, isn't that why he tells William about Sam? Nik can encourage Sam to tell the sheriff the full story.
In other hand, it's unreasonable for Sam to take Murdoch bet because he has Nik waiting him and Cliff on his booking list. Sam can amazed by Cliff's story about overseas and willing to help Cliff in his research with a thought that he can follows Cliff. For that, Sam works in Red's for extra cash after a night with Murdoch.
Ah well, the mental state can make someone take unreasonable decision.
"The Smoke room" refers to Sam's room. Though that, as I remember it only mentioned in Nik's route when Sam meets Cliff. I expected that the Smoke Room is a special place along the story for all of our main characters. Yet, it a bit strange because after route selection, Sam's room become less and less mentioned. However, I realized that the team pick "The Smoke Room" as the title because it mean : "It started from the Smoke Room"
Anyway, this is a good VN. Looking for the next update....
Some scenes make this hard to play by a window (especially at ground level) but it's still good. The setup for the fork seems rather odd though... especially with how fast that seems to get resolved.
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when does build 21 come out for itch.io? I am aware it came out on patron already but when does it go public?
Itch builds for EchoProject novels tend to release around 2-3 weeks after the Patreon build releases. So approximately around the 15-29th time frame of this month.
George in a mote recent comment said they're aiming for the 30th this weekend. :D I'm stoked!
That's a different Hendricks
Hi all, this is wild and random but I found Smoke Room because one of my songs has showed up on a couple Spotify Playlists dedicated to it. The song is Ain't No Politician by Nicholas Rowe. I would really like to know if my song is in the game. I'm merely curious really, I'm a writer for Storyblocks, and don't usually get to see where my music is used. It's always fun to find it out in the wild. Can anyone shed any light?
Huh, yes it is :)
It's amazing to see the very person who created music used in a game so randomly. I didn't even know that your song has vocals.
I would tell you to play this and see yourself the usage of your track, but... maybe not ^^
just kidding, I really hope you will give it a try, EchoProject's novels are something else, although maybe better idea would be starting witch Echo itself for many, MANY reasons ;)
Thank you so much. I'm gonna check it out.
Oh hey! Nice to meet you! Kinda surreal to, haha.
That one is in the Nikolai route. It's a scene where the protagonist is talking to some of the workers in the mine about how to use dynamite.
(Just a warning that this is a very nsfw furry game with a lot of m/m scenes but if you're brave please check it out.)
-George
I love your music and it fits the tone of the game perfectly sometimes. Some of the audioblocks stuffs veers more big epic cinema sounds or fancy yogurt commercial so it can be hard to find solid folk pieces. You are very appreciated.
-George
Thank you. Nice to meet you as well. I know the game is still unfinished so please let me know if you need any more stuff in the same vein. I'd be happy to help.
Oh, absolutely. That would be incredible. I'm fox_gs on telegram and @georgesquares on discord and twitter.
I really want a new update fror Willam Route i hope it comes out soon
Still waiting for James Hendricks NSFW scene on Nik Route (in the office)
Is the new update coming out soon?
If everything goes well It'll be on patreon in less than 24 hours.
Thank you I so looking forward to playing the new update the gets posted
Would love to hear 'em!
Which route will be updated next and will there ever be anything between Todd and sam?
Todd? The otter? Doubtful, I think they made him straight
Thats doubtful beacuse how intrested he is in Samuels work
Was it on his work? I thought he was interested on the squirts.
Ok, true, that and he was looking at Mr Tibbits a little too much so yeah, I guess it's possible to get a romance out of that otter.
the TvTropes page for The Smoke Room could use some love https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VisualNovel/TheSmokeRoom
For future reference, how does one update this? are all the builds completely separate or do my save files cross over automatically.
I think you gotta go into your file manager thats what i do (on mobile)
any update about the next build? :3
Aiming for between the 15th and the 30th of this month for patreon, which would be about 2 weeks later here. o/
-george
I see, thanks~
Love all your visual novels I just wish the wait time wasn't so long I know Nikolai is coming up next but you kind of left William at the worst cliffhanger as well but still love it all the same
This is scary and also makes sense. 😂😂😂
That's a different kind of horny many I was hoping to show y'all...
-George
Uh... Should I be concerned?? 😅😅😂😂
So how long will it take to finish the game？
very long~
We're at about the half way point and a lot of dev time is being spent on animatic design.
Ideally it won't be more than 2 more years.
Thanks for your support.
-George
Lesgo~ :3
is there any way to skip parts you've already seen when you scrap old saves or am I just stuck with aggressive keyboard mashing?
There's an option in settings to allow skipping unseen text
Sometimes I feel like Echo is a real place, as it feels like I really do move in circles, going back again and again to the amazing works associated with this town.
How should I put it... It's not just a novel, it's a masterpiece.
I've been reading furry visual novels for about a year now and I can say with confidence that this is the best thing I've read thus far.
Every line of dialogue, every image, everything is exactly where it should be.
I finished reading Echo last fall and was left blown away by the quality of the narration, but the writers managed to outdo themselves with The Smoke Room.
Each route is unique in its own way, revealing the mysteries of the town of Echo and its inhabitants. It's like a puzzle - the reader learns more details and revelations in each route of the chosen companions.
Each character is beautifully written - each have their own skeletons in the closet, each have their own secrets, no one is as unambiguous as it might seem at first glance.
The Smoke Room skillfully combines elements of romance, horror, and detective storytelling.
At times I was frightened along with the characters, rejoiced at their triumphs, even cried, both at the bitter revelations of the characters and the incredible scenes created by the writers. The literal music video in the middle of Clifford's route still makes me marvel.
What else is there to say? I'm really looking forward to the continuation of all the routes, but my personal favorite is William. (What can I say, I suppose I enjoy being tied up).
10/10
I love the narrative in both Echo and TSR, but I'm still having problems with the horror. Like it's so dark that I just don't feel scared anymore haha, of course that is personal opinion and takes nothing from the VN itself as every character is believable and lovable.
Btw Echo is a real place in Utah and it's really a Ghost Town if you ever wondered.
If it matters, echo was based off a real place if I'm not mistaken. It's practically our world with anthropomorphic animals and name changes.
Really, I'm intrigued now?
Just got the what has been finished from Nik and Will routes. I love Nik a lot but I do believe Will is better suited for Sam. They both suffered enough so that can support each other. I like Nik more but I don't see Sam liking him back enough.
do yourself a favor save Cliff for last!
Why yes, that was my plan. He is the least attractive to me in any front, but after William's route I just got wondering myself so I will take a look after Murdock
Welp, Cliff is truly one to ease hearts. This is the happiest route on all Echoverse as far as I'm concerned, and that animatic is just perfect.
William is my favorite followed Murdoch. Nik is my next favorite
I am a little conflicted cause William is as hot as the sun on summer (XD) but Nik is the type that gets my gears going phisically and sentimentaly speaking. I will need to see what's the deal with Murdock as many seem to love him
To be honest William just barely beats out Nik for me. Also I like Williams sense of humor. Its not like Nik loses by much for me its by a hair, but for me at least he still loses to William. Also William seems like a better protector but I mean he is literally the sheriff so that is to be expected.
Both are protectors, but I believe William is more suited for Sam, so I agree with your POV
Any theories on what makes Echo a cursed land? My current theory is a greater demon that causes trouble keeping the land in a constant state of anger and fear. Feeding of it to get stronger.
Also it could just be pissed off spirits. In a lot of lore when a lot of people die horrible deaths it has a way of cursing the land. Kinda makes a snowball effect makes it harder for people to be at peace in the land.
Or maybe a combination? Angry spirits would make a good food source for a demon considering they feed off negative emotions.
If anyone has theories I'd love to hear them. Also in Echo they mention a windago? But the confusing part if its a windago they are corrupted spirits caused by cannibalism. As far as I know they are currently no cannibals as far as I know. Unless there is some lore that I don't know of?
I never get tired of saying that Echo's evil and the Other from Adastra are one and the same as they have a similar way of acting and feeds on negative feelings. Even Neferu stated that stories of haunted buildings or towns is just the Other manifesting in a lessed way.
I need to finish the Adrast series. Gonna be honest I forgot it existed for a little while.
I think there's something wrong with android version again :( , hope it gets fixed soon I'm q huge fan of ur games echo man
Ok playing through Nik's route, he is so cute! How protective he is of Samuel is adorable to see. Can't wait for more to come out, I need to know how Nik and Sam's story plays out (I need them to get "married" hehe)
I am there as well, Nik is the cutest so far, but I do feel sorry for him and how he hates what Sam does/has to do.
Yes, but that's also a part of his character that I really like. The whole line about [spoiler] "wanting to pay to hold him forever, and pay him what he's really worth" basically felt like an confession of love, and it was cute as hell!! [endspoiler]
I screamed there
I can't descripe in words how much im loving murdoch's route, this precious man just deserves the world✨
I wasn't interested in his route to be honest, then I played it and I'm f'ing crying. I can even say it's the best route on the game.
I heard there was a christmas special AU, does anyone know where to find it?
https://www.patreon.com/posts/60308549
How is the top/bottom situation looking in this game?
current progress estimation: 48-52%
I don't know what's going on I can't get my smoke room to update this is what I get should I re-download
I'm having the same issue with the Android build
Try install the apk file with XPAK Installer in Playstore.
Try uninstalling your previous version, and installing the new after.
thank you for the help annoyed that I had to lose all my saved games
I'm still having this issue, it's my 1st time installing on Android too
Possible Spoiler:
I'm getting very strong Silent Hill/ Dark Souls vibes from this last update. I don't really know where this is going, but I'm hooked. Also why did it end the way it did!? 😃😃😩😩
Edit: I think the town either has a mind of its own or the spirits there are evil. Then with the dream Sam had, was it a dream or a vision?
Re: The Smoke Room - Build 20: Ghosts of Melodious Prophesyings Rave
Literary References:
Title: 'Endymion' - John Keats
[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 20 BELOW]
[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 20 BELOW]
[MAJOR SPOILER WARNINGS FOR BUILD 20 BELOW]
A "Brief" Summary:
This build picks up right after the voice in Samuel's head tells Sam that he has a guess on what Murdoch is referring to. This then proceeds to a long discussion between Murdoch and Samuel about possible confessions of the murder that happened a month prior in the story. Murdoch goes on to say that the noose is not a way of justice, but a heavy tether between life and death. Going on to say that the reason why the people of Echo want to see Samuel hanged is not because of murder, but out of excitement and the tension the gallows bring. Afterwards, Samuel leaves Murdoch alone and heads to the pawn shop to meet up with Jim wherein a conversation between them occurs where Samuel reveals that he knows that Jim is proceeding in intercourse with his soon to be brother-in-law and is also engaging in sex with Murdoch as well. Leading Jim to say that Murdoch is very eager for the 'relationship' between the two men and can not get enough of Jim. Murdoch soon walks in afterwards and interrupts their conversation and leaves with Samuel back to his family's general store. Inside we find William discussing with Ralph about the presumed whereabouts of Samuel, Samuel obviously wants to hide himself but it caught by Alfred Byrnes before he can choose to do so. William then leads Samuel and Murdoch to the back of the store to question Samuel about what exactly happened the month prior. Samuel feigns that he doesn't remember exactly what happened that night due to the head injury he sustained during the struggle (with help of Murdoch, discussing how he had a concussion during his teenage years). William proceeds to implying say that he would buy Murdoch [for sex] if things did not work out with his current profession and waltzes off. Murdoch and Sam go into the store's red room and they discuss various things about how photography works (the lights and all that) and end off talking about what exactly happened to Seamus. Sam returns to the Hip and gets his suit hemmed by Cynthia and he has two clients before sleeping and dreaming about what happened to Blithe's friend Melissa and Blithe waking up. The build ends with a conversation between Gretchen Byrnes and Samuel about politics.
Thoughts & Opinions:
I may be hugely biased because Murdoch Byrnes is my favorite character in the novel and his route is something I hold in high regard. I don't really have much to say as I did in my 'Rocks of Sombre Hue' review but I still thoroughly enjoyed 'Ghosts of Melodious Prophesyings Rave' as what it was. I loved the two new CGs that were included this build and the return of the glorious 88883 to my mix of giddiness and despair in the moment. I am excited to see how the rest of Murdoch's route goes from here and I wish for the best for Mr. Byrnes by the end, although knowing that (depending on the ending(s)) his fate could be something worse than death. However, I do feel that the façade of Murdoch's emotional state is beginning to crack more and more as the story has been progressing, the breakdown from the end of 'Sparkles Bleared and Black and Blind' only but cements that as a definite possibility for things to come when it comes to Murdoch as an individual who can hide his emotions in such a way.
Overall Rating:
9/10
~NotEvenParan0id
Furniture of the Golden Witch
thanks for the hard work as always, guys! you are awesome
Amazing~！
Does this game contain NSFW scenes?
Yes, lots of them!
Yes
Is this game done? Or do I have to wait a bit longer to read it completely?
It's not like they're charging to check it yourself. But it isn't done.
There's a development log you could check... I think. If there's a device that can't see it, I don't know.
edit: Oh come on. I answered the question. Why the minus?
Probably because it was a little rude? People normally don’t read the important stuff, even I first thought it was finish. Also, yes, you did answer. And no, I wasn’t the one who gave you a minus.
I actually wonder why he did that too.
Also, development log doesn’t say if it is done or not. Neither on the start of the description of the game.
Unless is Echo and Adastra which are the only projects that I know are finish.
Full offense taken as my boy Sam says jaja. Yeah a little rude but I think a "thanks" is due, yeah you did answered my question so, thanks.
Note: I wasn't the one on the minus end either.
Its a work in progress he finishes about a chapter a month for a character. It will be finished eventually but it slow progress
Thanks!!
it's hard to tell where the story is heading but what there is intrigue me to no end
I'm thinking the 'perfect' ending for TSR: Sam reveal his truth to Nik then Nik encourage Sam to tell it to William. Things go like William's route which mean he takes Nik, Sam, and Murdoch to the mine. In the way back, Murdoch throw a joke (and half serious) about last night bet. Then the things go like Murdoch route which he offer Sam to work in Red's for extra cash. Somehow, Cliff still looking for Sam and the end Sam help him with his research. Will it work?
It's too abrupt for Sam reveal his truth to William in William's route. Meanwhile William give Nik and Sam pressures in Nik's route by suddenly visiting them. It make them lied to him. Nik knows that William is a good guy, isn't that why he tells William about Sam? Nik can encourage Sam to tell the sheriff the full story.
In other hand, it's unreasonable for Sam to take Murdoch bet because he has Nik waiting him and Cliff on his booking list. Sam can amazed by Cliff's story about overseas and willing to help Cliff in his research with a thought that he can follows Cliff. For that, Sam works in Red's for extra cash after a night with Murdoch.
Ah well, the mental state can make someone take unreasonable decision.
"The Smoke room" refers to Sam's room. Though that, as I remember it only mentioned in Nik's route when Sam meets Cliff. I expected that the Smoke Room is a special place along the story for all of our main characters. Yet, it a bit strange because after route selection, Sam's room become less and less mentioned. However, I realized that the team pick "The Smoke Room" as the title because it mean : "It started from the Smoke Room"
Anyway, this is a good VN. Looking for the next update....
Cheers!
Possible spoiler
it's just not clear if nik and sam actually lied to william at the "end" of nik's route
Some scenes make this hard to play by a window (especially at ground level) but it's still good. The setup for the fork seems rather odd though... especially with how fast that seems to get resolved.
Oh yeah also are there any plans to add a CG gallery feature like how you can click on the lake in Echo?
The Smoke Room characters are on this site!
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